The Abrahamic religions all have a mythology with a beginning for the world, and an end for it as well, and for some reason having a creation myth was for 200 years ago seen as evidence supporting the idea that a mythology was advanced and almost equal to the bible. When the Scandinavians in the beginning of the 19th century started for real to read and interpret the Scandinavian mythology they had this in mind. They wanted Scandinavia too to have been «advanced» in Antiquity! They actively searched for a creation myth, and intentionally interpreted the myths to sound like creation myths. The same was the case for an end to the world; they wanted an Armageddon to be found in the Scandinavian mythology as well, and that is what they turned Ragnarök into.
This is one of the major mistakes most do when they read the Scandinavian mythology; they assume that some of the myths are creation myths. Let me give you a few examples; in Völuspâ stanza 2 to 5 there is a discription interpreted as being the creation myth of the worlds of men and gods; in Völuspâ stanza 17 & 18 there is a discription interpreted as being about how the gods give good colour, language, mind and life to two pieces of wood lying on the ground, and this is seen as the Scandinavian creation myth of man. In Völuspâ stanza 42 to 58 there is a discription interpreted as being a description of the end of the world, Ragnarök, the Scandinavian Armageddon!
In reality there is a very poor general understanding of these myths in our world, because of the Judeo-Christian filters everything has been seen through. If you want to see the stars you better not try to see them through a thick layer of dark clouds.
The fact is that the Scandinavian mythology has no creation myth of that type. There is no linear world view, no beginning and no end. Instead there is a very circular world view, of eternally repeating processes in life and in nature in general; the Sun rises, shines, sets and is gone, and then it rises again. The seasons come, they are, they go away and they are gone, before they return. This myth of eternal return was (in modern times re-) discovered by Sir James Frazer, who of course was no Judeo-Christian himself, but has since then mostly been discredited as unscientific and his book «worthless». This myth of eternal return explains just about every process in our universe, and applies even to planets, solar systems, galaxies and probably the whole universe as well. There is no beginning and no end. No «big bang», no «big crunch», no linear time. No beginning or end to anything; not to time and not even to the universe itself.
The human mind is able to understand eternity, but not to really fathom it. This might be some sort of «cosmic censorship», but more likely it is a result of the race mixing between Neanderthals (Europeans) and Homo sapiens (Africans). The Neadnerthals understood and fathomed eternity well, but Homo sapiens did not, and not those mixed with Homo sapiens either. Even the biggest brains of modern man, the European brains, are much smaller than the average Neanderthal brain.
Judeo-Christianity is a religion by and for mongrels, but the European mythology was made by Europeans (Neanderthals) or it was based on their insight, so the first sees life as linear and the latter as moving in circles. On see only birth, life and death, and tremble in fear for what might come after this. The other see eternity.
The Scandinavian myths mentioned above are not at all creation myths or myths about the end of the world. Völuspâ stanza 2 to 5 deal with how the burial mound was opened up after a fast, and how the initiate was to leave the daylight outside and enter the dark realm where no Sunlight, Moonlight or stars shone. They blew a lure to open up the gate in the fence surrounding the burial mound, they slaughtered a cow and went to learn the secrets from Hel – in the grave. There is no creation in this myth.
Völuspâ stanza 17 & 18 describe how the actors who had played the role of the Winter spirits in Ragnarök, by impersonating predatory animals, in particular the wolf, were brought back to the sacrificial trees, the ash and the elm, by the gods (i. e. human beings impersonating the deities). To become Winter Spirits they had hung their own cloths (a symbol of their life force) in the sacrificial tree; naked they went to put on (mainly) wolf skins and thus assume the role of Winter spirits in a great play, a mock battle between the Summer and the Winter. During this battle the (actors playing the) Summer spirits tore their wolf skins off them and stepped on them (i. e. played the role of Vîðarr in Ragnarök ripping the Fenrir wolf in two), to symbolically kill them. The actors played dead and were ceremonially carried back to the sacrificial trees, where the deities put back on their clothes and brougth them back from the dead; gave them good colours, spirit, a language and life again. There is no creation in this myth either.
Völuspâ stanza 42 to 58 is another description (there are several in Völuspâ) of the great mock battle between Summer and Winter, taking place on what for us today is called New Year’s Eve. They made a lot of noise, they burned wheels and let them roll down steep hills, throwing sparks about as they did, they ran through the forest wielding burning torches, to scare and chase away all the Winter spirits, and they divided into two groups; one assuming the role of the Summer spirits, and the other assuming the role of Winter spirits. They then – in a theatrical performance – had their biggest annual sword dance, where they showed how the Summer spirits killed the Winter spirits, and how this was what enabled Summer to return. They killed the Winter spirits, so that Summer could return. And they did this every single year. Ragnarök was not the end of the world, or the end of anything at all really, only a renewal of everything.
You can find a more thorough explanation to these myths in «Sorcery and Religion in Ancient Scandinavia».
So there is no creation myths and no Armageddon in the Scandinavian mythology. There is no beginning and no end. The cycle of life continues for all the powers in this world, as it always has and as it always will – and we will probably for quite some time still wonder how this is possible.
To ever be able to understand eternity we must stop all racial degradation of us, through the mixing of blood with non-European races, and we must ensure a positive eugenic society for Europe. Only through active cultivation of the Neanderthal genes in us will we ever find all the answers to the secrets of the universe. HailaR WôðanaR!
I just looked this website linked here how to recognize jew’s physical features and man i have to say, they are the most annoying looking people in the world. Usually if i see person smiling it makes me happy but when i see Jew smiling it just makes me want to punch him into face.
”Hultan
12/02/2013 at 08:10 • Reply
Do you really think, Mr. Vikernes, that our forebears, be it neanderthals or whatever, could have possibly understood the mysteries of the universe, better than we do, and if so why and how?
Do you think our forebears were as arrogant as the christians (and others) and claimed they knew and understood everything?
Who knows and understands everything? (warning: trick question!)
What is “positive eugenics”, in your opinion?
Not that I have anything against the percentage of neanderthal in me, or homo sapiens for that matter, but it is interesting how we, with our smaller brains (smaller than those of the neanderthals), could have accomplished all this great things, neanderthals couldn’t even dream of. Now that is truly interesting.
I know for sure that the theory of “bigger brains=bigger bang” is nonsense.”
You really think the Neanderthals would have seen our accomplishments as ”great”? I think they would have think about our deeds as pure stupid use of intelligence, as immorals use of science and as weak honourless deeds. I think they would have seen it as a nightmare instead as a dream like you said. They were everything but arrogant like mixed europeans were few centuries later. They were not raising giant useless buildings nor they were poisoning the water plans or cutting the forests down like mixed europeans did later. No animal species disapeared because of their deeds else their own specie because of race mixing. I will end it up by answering your first question: they were not using linear science like us nowadays to understand the world we live in. They were not unadapted to the world and nature like many of us living in cities nowadays. They were living in accordance with nature, they were not twisting and misusing their surroundings just to be worthlessly more ”comfortable”. With their big brains, they were able to memorize each and every things their senses could have captured. They were able to see the smallest differences of the stars position in the sky with a quick look. Just wonder if your senses would be sensitive enough to see the plants growing each and every seconds, see the stars moving(even billions at the same time) toward the sky, etc… I think your understanding of the biggest(the universe, the stars, etc..) and smallest(atoms, cells etc..) things surrounding you would be infinitely more accurate.
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Hultan
12/02/2013 at 09:23 • Reply
How are we to know if that was, or is, the truth?
This is more like some “noble savage” XIXth century romantic type of thinking, than anything factual.
What is harmony and what disharmony?
Is it for the first time in recorded history, that people were day-dreaming about “the good old times”? No.
Were there any good old times? I don’t think so.
Would we relly like the “good old times”, if we had the means to travel through time? Trust me, we wouldn’t.
Somebody unadapted (in a healthy manner) to the times he/she lives in, is bound to not accomplish much, if anything.
The “good old times” are like a well, but we use the “water” up here, on ground level. We don’t just jump in the well. (well=source, water=wisdom)”
Any disharmonious and unadapted being wouldn’t find the glorious past comfortable for sure. They would die fast or suffer for a long while in thoses glorious times. Mongrels can’t survive in a truly fair world, and that is why most people live in big cities and societies with hundreds of laws(the more corrupt state, the more laws) to follow nowadays. Just as no jews are really comfortable outside their own twisted society. You seem to be really comfortable in the arrogance and immorality of the modern civilization just like the jews are. Good for you then. Stay on this line as you seem to feel ”accomplished” there. You can’t follow an overgrowth path if you can’t see it. It seem you will never be able to see it anyway…
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Your last statement just make no sense at all, it sounds like a jewish parable…
It’s about adapting to the natural way of things, rather than to the artificial and decadent kind of society we’ve created for ourselves. The status quo is rather radical in the great scheme of things, and will not last forever. A few percentages of the world may be developed/industrialized/commercialized, but the rest belongs to the natural men.
If you’re of a sci-fi/futurist kind of mentality, I have a question to ask: Who do you think will be the colonists and settlers of new planets? It will not be the modern man, who are unwilling to leave their gilded caged, but the rugged men of nature.
If you consider the modern liberal man “harmonious” you’re really on an entirely different wavelength than anyone here, I think. Very out of touch with nature as a human being, indeed.
2nd paragraph:
“modern man” = “modern men”
“gilded caged” = “gilded cage”
Take away the modern “unharmonious” society and most (those here included) will be eaten by wild beasts. And you can quote me on this.
The wavelength does not imply mimetism.
It is a trait of mine not to argue with “omniscient” individuals.
It seems to me that you’re only reinforcing an opposing point regarding being killed by wild animals. To me, having little to no knowledge of the creatures we coexist with directly due to society rendering the knowledge unnecessary seems disharmonious, no?
Maybe because he is a jewish indeed, and that’s not surprising at all; the jews always make dirty the pure springs. They can’t abstain seeing such a spring like this.
Herr Vikernes, I would like to ask you about burning wheels and letting them roll down steep hills, could you explain me please more about its direct significance?
Why do I want to know about that? Because in our so orthodoxal country(Moldova), in some north regions, still exists this tradition and I have been participating in them(and that was a marvelous, unforgetable splendour! especially in the night); but when I asked them about the significanse of this action they said to me they don’t know and that it is just their annual tradition(if my memory doesn’t trade me – it happened on orthodox Easter Eve, in spring). I’m happy to discover that in our country still exist some pagan, that’s why I am interested to know more about its signicance. Thanks a lot for your attention!
Unfortunatelly they are not pagans at all my friend . They are just ignorant christian, poor, fooled peasants like almost 90% of people of Bassarabia, Tradition is just a reminiscence of the past, something written in our blood and they follow it instinctively not intelectually. It is sad that in our country pagan spirit will have to rise after many many years of “disbrainwashing” so to speak. The only hope is in a very few of us who are capable to transcend conformist thinking…
Keep the torch alight!
Agree with you, my brother, that they are ignorant christians, but I’m not ignorant, and I’m not christian, and that’s why I want to know the significance of this tradition; mayby these bessarabian christian peasants do not know why are they doing that, but I want to know and maybe in future to practice it, for understanding the sacred truth – our forefathers already knew. Gebeleizis Hails Us!
P.S. Don’t pay attention to these 90%’s, till we are searching the truth and descovering our true pagan roots – the existance of these 90% of dumb peasants and so-called “inteligence” still makes sense. Without us – they are just a walking flesh, without truth – they are slaves, without brains – ……mmmm, yes, that is truth.
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HailaR WôðanaR!
This article reminds me of this movie. It sort of revolves around something, atleast very similar to the great mock battle between Summer and Winter held on new years eve, that you describe. Very powerfull and emotionel movie, I think. Please note that the acting you see in this clip, are of actors playing out roles, who themselves are acting out roles of their own. It’s a live roleplay.
Greetings to all!
I’m really glad you wrote on this subject and I’ll tell you why… Before I ever thought I’d be a pagan,
before it ever crossed my mind that my ancestors (who were of Slavic and some Germanic descent) had a religion filled with such unbelievable beauty and wisdom, I was raised as a Christian. Not by choice, of course, but by family indoctrination. All of my childhood I was questioning my grandmother, who is a devout catholic, why this and why that, to things that to my European state of mind sounded really irrational and often plain stupid.
Before I started high school I got really interested in ancient history. Not that much in “new era” history because its too much tainted by the Judeo-Christian plague. Then I stumbled upon Norse mythology and Norse gods, glorious as they were. I’ve read about Ragnarök and how it would be the end of the world and death of many gods, among which are Odin and Thor. And then it kind of hit me… Why would a religion which is about nature, universe, life and rebirth just kill off their immortal gods who led their people throughout centuries and centuries, and even more.
Then I met some people, and I’m thankful to the Gods for this, who introduced me to the native religion of my ancestors, the Slavs. I’ve read about Perun (Slavic name for Thor) and all the other gods who were just the same to the gods in Greek and Norse mythologies which I loved reading about on the internet and in books. The wisdom of our European ancestors amazed me. The myths and stories they told to teach their kin about life, nature and universe which all act together in an unending vortex of life and death (rebirth).
Thank you Varg, for being the pagan hero Europe needed to wake up and thank the Gods for all the people who influenced my life by showing me the way of the forefathers! We will purge Europe of all the filth who wants us enslaved and afraid.
Hail Europa! Glory to our fathers!
P.S. I wrote this text hyped up on pride and honour that I’ve felt while writing and listening to this… http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OK-cfsN_VXo&list=LLf9j1ew-Lv-1sgoEUUnmqew
Do you really think, Mr. Vikernes, that our forebears, be it neanderthals or whatever, could have possibly understood the mysteries of the universe, better than we do, and if so why and how?
Do you think our forebears were as arrogant as the christians (and others) and claimed they knew and understood everything?
Who knows and understands everything? (warning: trick question!)
What is “positive eugenics”, in your opinion?
Not that I have anything against the percentage of neanderthal in me, or homo sapiens for that matter, but it is interesting how we, with our smaller brains (smaller than those of the neanderthals), could have accomplished all this great things, neanderthals couldn’t even dream of. Now that is truly interesting.
I know for sure that the theory of “bigger brains=bigger bang” is nonsense.
My questions and comments here are not written to aggravate anybody, but because I truly would like to know how other people feel about some topics. So, take them for what they are.
I think it was something along this lines of the neanderthals living in harmony and we are disharmonious beings that should be trying to regain what we once had?
How are we to know if that was, or is, the truth?
This is more like some “noble savage” XIXth century romantic type of thinking, than anything factual.
What is harmony and what disharmony?
Is it for the first time in recorded history, that people were day-dreaming about “the good old times”? No.
Were there any good old times? I don’t think so.
Would we relly like the “good old times”, if we had the means to travel through time? Trust me, we wouldn’t.
Somebody unadapted (in a healthy manner) to the times he/she lives in, is bound to not accomplish much, if anything.
The “good old times” are like a well, but we use the “water” up here, on ground level. We don’t just jump in the well. (well=source, water=wisdom)
Well, what I am about to say is my opinion which is probably different from Varg’s, Neanderthals were probably a lot smarter than us thanks to their larger brains, and their dna was probably much different than modern humans’ dna. Given that they were probably smarter than us, yet they only had technology for what they needed to survive (hunting tools), they may have been living in “harmony” in the sense that they were somehow synchronized with nature, They may have known everything, and didn’t need any technology because the purpose of technology is to advance (and they were already extremely advanced, maybe). When the homo sapiens mixed, technology bloomed as the result of a disharmonious being trying to regain its harmony. The way I see it, Thrall’s kin = the very first humans, homo sapien. Karl’s Kin = Modern man. Jarl’s Kin = may have been what was once known as Neanderthal, and could potentially be the result of the next step of human evolution. I am still not very educated on Paganism so forgive me if what I’m saying is complete nonsense, I am learning though.
I also find this song (by Tool) to be very enlightening.
Technology is only one facet of culture and civilization and it has one single purpose: it is a tool and nothing else.
People use tools for different reasons and these reasons are not all mere survival, but also creation of art, for example. Try sculpting, painting or carving anything, without a tool. More complex tasks ask for more refined and complex tools.
A large brain never meant more intelligence, on the part of the bearer, nor did a smaller brain meant less intelligence. This is a modern materialistic approach, where everything big is good, where quantity replaces quality.
Technology aside, how about the huge amount of art and science, that the modern man created, with a much smaller brain than that of the neanderthals?
I mean, were Nietzsche, Machiavelli, Michelangelo, Da Vinci, etc. dumber than some neanderthal? I believe not.
Food, the acces to it and the knowledge of conserving it in enough amounts, for bad times, is what makes the difference. A full belly thinks big, while an empty one thinks only about food and how to get it.
So these smaller brains of modern humans, call them what you want, were, in the end, capable of more, than did the bigger neanderthal ones. And that is a fact.
These smaller brains were capable of getting food easier, conserve it for bad times and had the time needed to think about bigger issues, like religion, science, art. etc. They even had the time to think about greed, envy, etc., and so to start quarrels and wars. Not all good things, if you’re on the losing side, but all too good if you’re winning. Both ways, everything all too human. Hehe.
I do not see any kind of harmony, wasting my whole life chasing food and trying not to get exterminated. Could anybody point out what can be so great about that?
Of course we should go more gently with the things on this planet that secure our survival and not destroy that, but that is something we can achieve, justa as we are. We must not return to being primitive creatures, in order to do that.
And I do not say that neanderthals were more primitive than homo sapiens, or the other way around, because I don’t really care.
I say that the modern humans, the modern europeans, whatever you call them, are capable of far more, than their ancestors. Not in a linear world outlook, but in a factual one.
Look at the viking ships: they evolved in time, along with the knowledge about ship building, It was not inborn, but was a learning process, just like so many things are. Even mere survival must first be learned.
The neanderthals were just a step towards what we became. Nothing else.
I am a modern human and I am as proud of what my ancestors achieved and what my contemporaries achieve now, as I am ashamed of some things my ancestors did, or what my contemporaries do.
I find this “noble and harmonious savage from the good old times” idea to be utterly simplistic. That’s all.
On reference about neanderthal brain: I think we should see it in proportion not in size. Because if you take in consideration only size, then whales has the hugest brain of all mammals but in proportion it is not that big. So, our ancestors probably has bigger brain than ours in proportion!
On reference about neanderthal brain: I think we should see it in proportion not in size. Because if you take in consideration only size, then whales have the hugest brain of all mammals but in proportion it is not that big. So, our ancestors probably had bigger brain than ours in proportion!
Of course I did exaclty that. I am not a “big is better” kind of guy.
Still, what can they bring to the table, and what can we? I believe, propotion or not, that we win, whatever the proper denomination for us may be.
Plain fact.
Do not take just one step towards what we are, the neanderthals, as the way we should have stayed, or what we should become again. Both are nonsense, as far as I’m concerned.
Romanticism and day-dreaming is for private moments, not public ones. Public moments are serious and complex.
I hate not well writen sentences, so I will correct myself:
“Do not take just one step (the neanderthals) towards what we are (modern europeans), as the way we should have stayed, or what we should become again.”
If we take our lifes as rebirth cicles or as metempsychosis, then, I think our next level would be the beginning of a new cicle or “back to the roots” so to speak. Anyway current world order is going to fall. And after an Ice age or a nuclear war, the life will be reborn in its formal form…
And you know all of this, because…?
You confuse a cycle, even a cyclical phenomenon, with a circular world view.
And the rest is just wishful thinking, based on things that are of no interest for me.
If they are of no interest to you that is fine, but keep that to yourself. What is of no interest to you can perfecty well be of great interest to others, and they have no interest in knowing whether or not this is of interest to you. If you expect to be treated with respect you need to show respect for others too.
It is not about “knowledge” but, as Varg said, intuition. We cannot know everithing as somebody would wish. It is my personal seeing of our world. If your goal is to change the mentality of some of us then you are already lost because I (and I think most of us) have “day-dreaming” perspective on things. Yes I am not materialistic and the modern order does not fit me. You can think what you want but I won’t waste my time combating your “theories” anymore…
Intuition is only a way to attain knowledge, my friend. You “feel” that something may be this or that way and you go out there to find out if “it is” so, or if not.
Intuition, let it be said, isn’t a certainty, as some make it seem. You can also go wrong with it.
“Day-dreaming” is healthy and useful, if not mistaken for reality.
Being materialistic, to some healthy degree, is a good thing. Succumbing to materialism isn’t.
Anyhow, I bet you wouldn’t just give me your hard earned computer, car, house, etc. if I would ask you to.
The modern society does not fit a lot of people, which must not automatically be a badge of honour.
I have no goal, concerning this website here. Just a chat, if you don’t mind.
In the end, you should ask yourself why did you felt, even for a moment, the need to combat my “theories” in the first place. If done right, the answer might surprise you.
You can think of it this way: who is the most intelligent person, a purely European individual with a larger brain (=Neanderthal), or a mixed European-African individual with a smaller brain (=modern European)?
Our technology is something we make to compensate for our lack of intelligence. We try to create devices that can do what our brains were able to do before. It’s that simple.
E. g. if your brain enables you to easily memorize the starlit sky, like a savant could be able to do, then why would you need a modern computer-made starmap?
I do not praise technology, as much as it may appear. Actually, I prefer not to use it, whenever I can, which is more often than a lot of “pagans” here do, or the most “modern” europeans do.
But it is a fact that an idiot cannot develop technology and that the modern technology is as complex, as the complex brains that invented it.
As I have stated before, technology is only one facet of an advanced society and, as far as I’m concerned, not a very important one.
But how about culture as a whole? How about art, as an expression of the capacity for abstract thought? And so on…
Does that count for something?
Technology is a tool and nothing else, as I have also stated before.
He who fails to recognise and understand that is the actual idiot.
How about you try to make a spear, dear neanderthal, using only “your fangs and your claws”? Will not work well. But if you use a tool, like a sharp stone, it will work well.
So, tools are tools and let us not take them for something else.
I do not believe that modern humans are so dependent upon tools, in order to know and even memorize anything.
Idiots? No tool can help or cure them.
And the fact of greatest importance is, Mr. Vikernes, that it would be a fatal mistake to stay weaker than our enemies. Wouldn’t you agree?
How about we use technology for our survival? If we don’t, the enemy surely will use it against us.
I am descendant of a clan that had some poets/thinkers, but more warriors to offer. So, excuse me if I mix the two elements in everything i say, write and do, but that is my nature. I cannot write poetry and day-dream, without a sword by my side.
I am sure you understand what I mean.
You argue as if we suggest that we should drop all technology in favour of a Stone Age life style. Stop that. Get your facts straightened out before you come with such meaningless questions as those in this (and other) comment(s).
Let us stay calm an don’t get aggravated.
It kinda sounded like you’re proposing just that. Maybe longer and more explicit posts would be of some help. Just a thought.
Maybe longer and more thorough contemplation in relation to the contents of each post before commenting would be of some help too… :-p
The neanderthals were just a step towards what we are today. I like myself and my fellow europeans just the way they are, just as I love and try to understand every step of the “ladder” that brought us here and made us what we are.
We, the modern europeans, are the greatest people to ever walk this earth and the creators of the only high culture still standing.
How could I besmirch that?
But, as I have wrote before, I live in here and now, because it is the only place I can be and the only place that the still living europeans are.
It is from today that we can build a great tomorrow for ourselves, while, of course, knowing and respecting the past for what it was and not for some idealised “heaven on earth”.
Without a “now”, of knowledge, respect and action, we won’t have any “tomorrow”.
Each generation, each individual, should try and do the best of the moment he lives in, for the future benefit of his people.
I have nothing else to say on this subject.
You make a lot of good points Hultan. I think you may be mistaking what is being said here though. We obviously do not see ourselfs as Neanderthals but of what is left of them(Modern Europeans). We long for a past free of technology but we know that it would be insane to try and recreate those times. They are in the past.
We are trying to understand our past so that we have a better idea on which way to go in the future. Even though we are basing our morals on those of old we will only be returning to our roots in a spiritual sense. The laws of nature say ‘adapt or die’ and we certainly aren’t going to ignore that.
The myths about Odin being the one eyed god make this quite clear. One eye in the past, one in the present. One eye trusting intuition and the other perception. If you put all your eggs in the same basket(daydreaming or only looking at what is right in front of you) you’re going nowhere and I think that may be exactly what you are trying to say.
I don’t what your ideal society is but anyway. The technological advanced/monetary based society comes with a price, i.e slavery. And it’s you and me, the common people who’re paying the price with or lives and freedom in return for a pathetic salary so we can pay for food and a home. While the filthy rich hot shots on top – the slave owners – can protect us from the horrible hardship of life. Do we really need all this technology? I don’t care if “we” can send men to the moon if how the world looks today is the price.
The Germanic tribes for example, who still lived a primitive life, were way more superior morally than the technological advanced Rome and other states. They were well known for their loyalty and honour and that’s why they were favoured as bodyguards for emperors.
You measure species to species … very obviously …
” Psychologist Michael McDaniel, for example, conducted a study in which he concluded that bigger brains do indeed make smarter people.
There is proof that a man’s brain is, on average, slightly bigger than a woman’s, and at least one study of intelligence has given men a slight advantage over women, but does this mean that bigger is better when it comes to brains? Not necessarily. First of all, it is possible to argue with the method and findings of the intelligence test (and of intelligence tests in general), and second, overall brain size may not be a useful measure. Albert Einstein, one of the greatest minds in human history, had a merely average-sized brain. But some parts of Einstein’s brain, such as the inferior parietal region (connected with mathematical thinking), were larger than usual. So the size of certain areas of the brain may be of more significance in gauging the potential for intelligence than the overall size of the brain as a whole.”
The point is … bigger IS better.
You sound yankee to me, haha.
And you sound like a very biased person to me.
Aren’t we all?
Yes, we are, but we should be able to treat others with the respect they deserve and argue respectfully. Telling a person that he sounds like a yank is not very constructive. You can think so, fine, but using that as an argument against what he says is not fine. this “Yank” is our friend and ally, our brother, who just happen to live in the USA.
You are as far as I have understood German, so you have grown up in the most fucked-up society in post-WWII Europe, a country not even allowed to change its own constitution, so I don’t see why you should be in a better position to know what is right than any “Yank”. And by the way; those Yanks even made your constitution, that helped shape you and your countrymen into what you are today… I’de worry more about my own culture, education and upbrigning if I were you.
Yes, this is exactly what Marie has said about the Neanderthals and technology on Atala.fr. I think you have understood this as it is (well, save the bit about mythology, wich I disagree with).
Were there any good old times? Thankyou for posting this question. It sums up my feelings excactly. Personally I don’t think so. Man has always looked back with a melancholic sense of longing. I do not understand all this “going back to nature” thinking. I do however understand the positives in; leaving the city, gazing at the stars, shutting of ALL of ones electronic entertainment devices(including this one
) and breathing the fresh air in the wild.
We simply cannot live outside nature, so preserving it, actually preserving that which sustains our survival within nature, should be a task for every sane individual.
It should not automatically mean “back to the village”, or anything, but we do have a problem today, nevertheless: nobody wants to be a peasant.
So less people must produce more food, for more and more other people.
A balance, between “urbanized” folks and food producing peasants, would solve this problem. And some new politics concerning overpopulation.
But that’s about it.
We did not create urban areas, because it kills us. We did it because that is our nature.
Some feel well in cities, others don’t. Some like pizza, others don’t. It is a personal thing, just like depending in life upon all sorts of devices, or not depending on them.
We should first learn to differentiate and not to generalize everything.
This dichotomy, us vs. them, good vs. evil, can be found here, on this blog, too. We are always righteous and good, while they are always evil.
If you disagree with me, you are not one of us and therefor you are evil.
Just look around and you’ll see.
“I hate faggots, jews, christians, etc!” What about not giving a fuck about them? We make them the big issue that they become for us. It don’t just happen.
So, stay in a pub and drink yourself silly, or infront of a computer commenting here. Just as well climb a mountain and live in a village, or a cave, gazing at the stars. Everyone is free to do whatever makes him happy.
The point is that my freedom and my rights end there where the rights and the freedom of my fellow citizen starts.
Knowing that makes you a good citizen and a good member of your family/folk/nation/empire.
Being a good individual, a useful and productive individual, for yourself and for yours is, ultimately, all that matters.
Live in here and now, in your public life. In private do whatever makes you happy, as long as you don’t hurt anybody that does not deserve to be hurt and all those involved are mature consenting individuals.
And never mix private and public issues. The former is “dominium”, while the latter “imperium”.
My 2 cents…
Try reading (if you didn’t already) Francis Parker Yockey’s “Imperium” and even, maybe, Norma Lowell’s “Imperium Europa”, concerning socio-political issues, but not only.
I found them to be most interesting.
Any disharmonious and unadapted being wouldn’t find the glorious past comfortable for sure. They would die fast or suffer for a long while in thoses glorious times. Mongrels can’t survive in a truly fair world, and that is why most people live in big cities and societies with hundreds of laws(the more corrupt state, the more laws) to follow nowadays. Just as no jews are really comfortable outside their own twisted society. You seem to be really comfortable in the arrogance and immorality of the modern civilization just like the jews are. Good for you then. Stay on this line as you seem to feel ”accomplished” there. You can’t follow an overgrowth path if you can’t see it. It seem you will never be able to see it anyway…
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Your last statement just make no sense at all, it sounds like a jewish parable…
My last statement is what you should read a couple of times and, because it is simple, if you don’t get it… well, too bad.
If you, or anybody else, want to learn about european pagans first hand, then maybe the Mari People in Russia are the ones we should visit, being probably the only ones still around.
You should read some of the prior blogs here, it becomes quite obvious that our ancestors in fact did know many mysteries of the universe. The articles in question are ‘Science in Scandinavian Mythology; Gravity’ and ‘Science in Scandinavian Mythology; the Magnetic Field, the Ozone Layer and Ultraviolet Radiation.’
As for if they knew everything, I don’t think we’ll ever know for sure but I doubt anyone can truly know ‘everything’. I believe there is some old saying that goes something along the lines of ‘the wisest man always knows what is is that he doesn’t know.’
As for some of your other posts(all good questions
) Technology comes from adaptation. If our ancestors were in ‘harmony with nature’ that would mean they saw their current existence as perfect hence they saw no reason to adapt. Modern man is always adapting and trying to reclaim something that we feel is missing(be it spiritual or brain power, pretty sure Varg wrote one of his early blogs on this subject). This would explain our obsession with art and music that cannot be taken on face value. Sure the other races have art and music as well, but rarely are there multiple interpretations or higher meanings that come out of non-white art. Art is in essence an exercise for the brain. Man gives different concepts a form, and those who later appreciate it have to ‘decode’ the original meaning of it. Intelligent beings are naturally drawn to the arts. What we think the Neadnerthalls had is in reality a higher link to each other. Rather than looking at a piece of art and trying to figure out what it means, they knew with their first glance. Either they already knew the ‘code’ or they just had that much more brain power.
As for the point you made about hunger. I’m afraid you are wrong. There have been studies that actually show that we’re smarter when we are hungry. We are more intelligent when we know it will take more effort to get our food. http://blog.creativethink.com/2006/12/hungry_intellig.html
Of course the modern diet, promoted by the jews, turns hunger into a feeling of grouchiness and fatigue. If you haven’t already you should check out a low carb, low glutton, low sugar diet. You’ll be surprised how different ‘hunger’ feels when it does not come along with a sugar crash. If you’d like more info on that topic check out the Big Fat Fiasco series on youtube. This again ends us on topic in which our ancestors were truly more intelligent. Diet.
Great logic here Kevin.
No offence, but I see around here (and elsewhere) a lot of all-knowing folks.
I have no intent of arguing with any kind of “true believers”, so excuse me if I do not continue this any further.
A fanatic is nothing but an idealist we disagree with. An idealist is nothing ut a fanatic we agree with.
Get down from your high horse. We are all “true believers”. You are no better yourself.
Touché!
You really think the Neanderthals would have seen our accomplishments as ”great”? I think they would have think about our deeds as pure stupid use of intelligence, as immorals use of science and as weak honourless deeds. I think they would have seen it as a nightmare instead as a dream like you said. They were everything but arrogant like mixed europeans were few centuries later. They were not raising giant useless buildings nor they were poisoning the water plans or cutting the forests down like mixed europeans did later. No animal species disapeared because of their deeds else their own specie because of race mixing. I will end it up by answering your first question: they were not using linear science like us nowadays to understand the world we live in. They were not unadapted to the world and nature like many of us living in cities nowadays. They were living in accordance with nature, they were not twisting and misusing their surroundings just to be worthlessly more ”comfortable”. With their big brains, they were able to memorize each and every things their senses could have captured. They were able to see the smallest differences of the stars position in the sky with a quick look. Just wonder if your senses would be sensitive enough to see the plants growing each and every seconds, see the stars moving(even billions at the same time) toward the sky, etc… I think your understanding of the biggest(the universe, the stars, etc..) and smallest(atoms, cells etc..) things surrounding you would be infinitely more accurate.
I really think that the neanderthals, faced with our society, would have had no time to evaluate anything, out of obvious reasons.
I am sure most think I dismiss, or even detest, the “good old days”, which cannot be more false. I actually love it and find it fascinating.
As an intelligent human being, I try also not to idealise it too much (I did that when younger), but to see it for what it really was, as much as possible, in order to draw the right conclusions out of the ancient wisdom. That’s what the “parabel”, as you called it, about the “well” and the “water” was all about. It is obvious you didn’t get it. I do not wish to live in the past, because it is impossible. Even if it was possible, I still wouldn’t, because that is not the purpose of it all.
I also have a completely differing view on human nature (modern european nature), than most here.
Stangation is deadly, just as day-dreaming and romanticizing is.
I appreciate your comments here though it’s obvious many of the others do not. Sometimes we get too caught up the the daydreaming and need a kick back to reality, or we need something to oppose our theories to realize that they don’t all hold up. A good scientist is always looking to be proved wrong, rather than looking for things that prove him right. If a theory can’t hold up to a bit of criticism it’s probably a lost cause.
Learning from the past and trying to recreate it are two different things. I’d agree with you that trying the second would just be foolish. I’d be interested in hearing about your view on human nature if you’d care to explain.
What can you expect, from nomadic people that never had a homeland, but wanted one more than anything else (at least in the beginning)?
They had a need and an aim, so they didn’t have no use for any circular world outlook (although they had it, in the beginning), but for a linear one. So they used and invented whatever was serviceable to their aim.
They even turned a polytheistic religion into a monotheistic one, for their purposes (Jahve was only one of their original gods and as far as I know he was the god of war initially), just as they turned to the rabbinical teachings, forgeting their original ones.
And when that homeland “of milk and honey” wasn’t enough, they started spreading the word.
Sadly, many swallowed that nonsense and even asked for more. More sadly, most of our stock did that. Even the most militant atheists (even pagans, odalists, etc.) seem unable to rid themselves of those foreign “ethical and moral values”.
Fortunately though, as the history shows, it was (and still is) a long process of digesting the middle-eastern nonsense, just as it surely will be a long process of returning to an original european world outlook.
I do not advocate a return to what was. That only goes to show how little some people understand the wisdom of our ancestors.
The ciclical world outlook did not mean something like “we were all hunter-gatherers and we will return to being hunter-gatherers”. It meant that no matter how culturally or technologically advanced people are, some things are eternal and those things, in the right constelation, will happen in the same way. It means that cultures and civilizations come and go almost in the same manner. It means that a certain action will always have the same reaction. It means that humans are limited creatures, subjects to powers sometimes beyond their capacity of comprehension.
It simply means “you’re too dumb to get it, kid, but you can still try to get it and maybe one day you will”. Maybe not. We’ll see.
Until not so long ago, europeans formed almost the entire christianity. Think about that and ask yourself the right questions, not the favourable ones, in order to get the right answers, not the favourable ones.
Being honest at least to yourself is the first step on the path of understanding anything.
Europeans formed almost the entire Christianity? Forgive me if I misunderstood, but where are you getting this information? As far as I understand it, Christianity began as a Jewish (!) sect in a Middle-Eastern region around the 1st century. I fail to see what part Europeans could have played here.
Sure it began as a jewish sect, but it flourished, sadly, in Europe and we, the europeans, spread it around the globe.
Thought everybody knew that.
I don’t think several centuries of war constitutes as “flourishing”. Also – perhaps you misspoke, I don’t know – you claimed that Europeans formed almost the entire Christianity and then agree with me when I assert Jews founded it?
I always saw myself as a somewhat parallel to Sir James Frazer, being a Scotsman. Knowing his thinking processes and his studies, as well as his face, excluding the ears, they kind of all paired up to my own.
I have “The Golden Bough” on my bookshelf right next to me.
I guess I’ve always been an old soul or maybe a distant relative to his own family. Great article, I’m glad you mentioned his work, or at least his name.
this is the first post that says the term, eugenic.
No, you’re just not attentive enough.
Okay, and that means something?
I do not know much about the “Big Bang” and “Big Crunch” theories, but the closest thing there is in India (“mahamanvantara” –“great beginning”- and “mahapralaya” –“great dissolution”-; the translation is not literal) do really have the notion of a beginning and an end, but beginning and end of a cycle: when one cycle begins, it develops and then represses until the end of the cycle is reached; then there comes a moment of non-activity and then a new “great beginning” takes place, and it goes so ad infinitum.
These cycles are not chronologically related, but logically and ontologically; however, due to the correspondences between the macro-cosmos (“the universe”) and the micro-cosmos (“man”), these cycles reflect in even the lesser things of life: for example, when I have my lungs empty, the cosmos is in the phase of non-activity; then I inhale and we have the beginning, as I continue inhaling we have the development of cosmic manifestation, and then I start exhaling, which corresponds to the repression of the process (I found no better word as antonym for “development”), until I reach the phase of the “end” and then the empty-lungs, which corresponds again to the period of non-activity. The same could be said for night, dawn, the raising of the sun, the recession of the sun, the sunset and night again. And there are many more examples, like the life of a person; all these minor cycles, unlike the greater ones, are chronologically related of course.
So there can be –and there are- “lineal” periods, or at least periods that are seen to be linear from a limited point of view that cannot apprehend the cyclic vision, as you rightly said; I agree that mongrelization could be related to this.
But my point is that the notion of “beginning” and “end” is indeed existent within the cyclic reality (after all, the circle is made of a line, yet a not straight line, I agree) and important for us and, to some degree, “critical” or even “dramatic” (but not “despairing”) as long as we do not have access to the true cyclical vision (and even when the cyclic vision is achieved, the events of life could acquire an even greater intensity); for example, now we are witnessing the downfall of the white race (because races have also their beginnings and ends), and we will not be able to fight against it if we say “well, this is only part of a natural cycle, perfectly normal, it will pass”; and if we do not fight, we will not be able to save the nucleus of what will be the new race, born from the ashes of our Aryan or, as you surely prefer, European race.
Lastly, it should not be forgotten that one thing is Eternity, that is the same with Immutability, and other thing is the indefinite succession of cyclic manifestations; one thing is “Moksha”, the “Supra-World” or “Nirvana”, and other is “Samsara”, the “World” as we, non-initiated men, know it.
I do not agree with everything said by Evola here http://www.juliusevola.net/excerpts/Misunderstandings_of_the_New_%22Paganism%22.html , but I think that our Tradition should not be reduced to a “naturalistic” approach. I know that you do take the original texts and traditions, and are therefore un-contaminated by Judeo-Christianity, and that you are not the kind of Pagan that Evola had in mind while writing that article, but you should still avoid “the imprisonment in Nature” mentioned there (because Honor is Spirit, but Spirit is not Nature and “cyclical becoming”, but Supra-Nature and Eternity), in case you want your spiritual doctrine to be able to contend with Christianity in the purely doctrinal ground (if you do not care for that everything is all right; no one from “the masses” will ask about true transcendent spirituality, and will maybe find a “natural religion” far better and logical that Judeo-Christianity, but the true super-natural and supra-rational spiritual perspectives will be gone for the public version of Odalism).
What is it with WNs and Indian philosophy? The Indian people themselves are very jewish in their actions and beliefs.
Please correct me if I’m reading what your wrote incorrectly; but are you implying that Odalism needs some kind of belief on Transcendence like the Judeo-Christain religions? It’s my belief that any religion that preaches such theories is thoroughly irrational and eventually will lead to our destruction. In essence believing in some form of Ascension is very un-natural. It promotes a belief that there is something greater and more worth working for than one’s own people and our planet. On that count any religion with such beliefs can only focus on the individual and each individual’s ‘salvation’. It is counter-intuitive to everything we are trying to achieve. It also implies that there is a supreme being which judges us after death which leads you off the path of honor and onto a path of appeasing some god purely for perceived personal gain.
As for the concepts of good and evil; any rational man will see that these concepts are not universal. What is good for one race is usually bad for the next. In reality there is no good and evil but things that are good for the race or bad for the race. This is where honor comes in. An honorable person will always act for the greater good as what is good for the people is almost always good for the individual.
On the concept of a ‘new race’, we will either save the European race or what will be left of it will be an even more interbred Mulatto race. That is why it’s important to integrate science into our new religion. If we can break the ‘we’re all the same on the inside’ propaganda many people will give up mixing.
I agree with a lot of this. But … transcendence is key. How could it not be? Christianity is NON transcendent. Its simply “following written rules” or OBEDIENCE.
The “good and evil” point I agree with.
Racism IS scientific. So is spirituality.
Are you promoting atheism?
But Christianity and all of that ilk are transcendent. They teach people to follow their rules with a promise of some mythical utopia called Heaven(Nirvana, shamayim, etc.). It’s the same false promise of utopia that Communism has to offer. “Follow our rules and you will achieve …”. Transcendence and re-incarnation are incompatible with one another. You either spend eternity on this earth being reborn(cyclical cycle), or you live, die, and transcend(a linear cycle). The point is that life is not a punishment neither is there something better than living a natural life. Our ‘goal’ is for each of us to reach our highest potential here on Earth, not to become something in which we are not. I don’t see how you could separate the ideas of Transcendence and Obedience. Trans. is an un-natural concept within itself and so when it is introduced it always comes with a set of rules on how to obtain it. Honor is about doing what is right for your people because it is ultimately what is good for you. Obedience is not a given, though there are times where it is necessary.
I’m most certainly not promoting Atheism, I’m promoting a balance between Rationalism and Spirituality. Between Science and Race. Spirituality is heavily interlinked with our heritage and our blood. There is nothing mythical or even transcendent about it. I suppose I can see where you are coming from with the Atheism remark, would you not say that Varg is preaching ‘Atheism’ as well? The point is that there are no real deities just godlike ideals and that people who follow said ideals are in essence gods or deities themselves.
As you can see from my earlier post, I do believe at one time we were all ‘gods’ in a more literal sense and abandoned that existence for a very good reason. And in that same note I believe that our universe must have been created by someone or something. My point on that matter is that all of that is irrelevant as it has no effect on how we live our lives or act nor can it be proven. What is in tune with nature, and what benefits our race prevails, our honor code is based on nature itself. There isn’t anyone setting laws nor anyone promoting some irrational pipe dream. You live and you die with honor, rinse, repeat. The cycle goes on.
No, Atheism is the opposite of Christianity. Varg is not “preaching” that.
Transcendence is a spiritual experience. Not necessarily transcending to “heaven” or “another world”. Transcending spiritual normal or average human bounds. Whether that’s leaving this world or another dimension or even reincarnation. Volksgeist. Race of the spirit. Very transcendental to me.
One more thing, you said that Othalism seems “transcendent” but then said Varg is preaching atheism. Which one is it?
I think we may have different definitions for the term Transcendent. Yes, I do think spirituality goes along with a higher understanding of the world and raising above our limitations. If that is what you mean by Transcendence I am in agreement with you. I thought the word was limited to the meaning of the spirit passing on unto another world or realm. Still I’m not sure I would classify it as going beyond human bounds. The potential is naturally there, we are just rediscovering how to harness it.
I’m a very spiritual person. A year ago when I was very sick I put on some music meant to show respect toward our ancestors and put my mind in a state where I could do the same. Nothing mythical came out of it, but this ‘ritual’ gave me a feeling of power I hadn’t had before and gave me the will to carry on and fight against that which was killing me. This was what really sent me on the path to White Nationalism, when I realized that there was something very special within our blood. Since that experience I’ve done the same, but with different music, when I feel I am in a mood where I’d be receptive to it. Doing so puts me in a state where I can think very clearly and very rational without outside distraction, in that state I reached many conclusions that I later found Varg talking about here on his blog. That is why I’ve been sticking around here and really think we have a good future with this new religion, because it is what comes naturally.
Apologies for the confusion.
Yes, the bottom of your post makes sense to me. The second to last paragraph eludes to “deism”.
Or vice versa
Yes and no. I do have my theory about a creator but I don’t see how my theory would have any effect on us at all. If there was a creator it seems pretty obvious we’ve either been abandoned or left to our own will. I see praying to or depending on a god as a sign of weakness and ignorance.
Spirituality and Science need to go together as one if we are to advance ourselves further. We need to learn how to unlock our potential if we are to use it. What may have come naturally to the Neanderthals is still there on some level and it only makes sense that we try to access it, to claim what we once had. This is what I think the Nazis were trying to access with their supposed occult studies. They weren’t looking up anything ‘satanic’ or any ‘sorcery’. They were trying to understand the runes to try and help us get on the same though patterns our ancestors were on. If we understand how our ancestors thought, then we can learn to think that way ourselves.
I think the jews specifically nudge science and religion apart from each other because ancient Europeans saw them together as one. An example I made on an earlier blog post was how our ancestors saw everything that existed as light. This light could not be destroyed. Compare that with how we know that all matter is made up of energy which can neither be created nor destroyed. This is the kind of stuff the Christians torched during their crusades, and it’s taken us centuries to re-learn it working on the rational side alone.
Aryan spirituality does not promise anything; it only states that spiritual realization, or Self-realization, can be achieved by one’s own efforts. Even Jesus –if he ever existed- admitted this when he said that “the Kingdom of Heaven can be taken by storm” and that “you (we) are Gods”.
Yes, you are absolutely right when you say that “Transcendence and re-incarnation are incompatible with one another. You either spend eternity on this earth being reborn(cyclical cycle), or you live, die, and transcend(a linear cycle)”; in these ancient Aryan traditions, re-incarnation was considered as a destiny only fit for those who had not yet achieved the knowledge and power to free themselves from that cycle. The chieftain wrote something similar to that: “The optimists – like the Pagans – see the creation as an opportunity. We are not exposed to this “Hell”, and Earthly life, because we are being punished, but because we are supposed to learn something and improve. The gods united with the giants because they needed to be connected to something physical in order to influence the world physically. Jarl’s kin is the tool of the gods, that they can communicate with and influence, and use to achieve their goals. Our minds and spirits are simply elves (“eternal”), that we can describe as “small bits and pieces” of the deity we know as Tīwaz/TīwaR/Týr (“honour”, “god[s]“), Svarog (“heaven”, “to create”), Jupiter (“father of the gods”), Divas/Deus (“god[s]“), and so forth. Every time we die the still pure (“white”) parts of these “bits and pieces” are returned with the deity, before they are sent back to Earth, when we are reborn in the kin. The goal of each individual is to make sure the mind and spirit is not only “white” when we die, but also that it is strengthened and magnified, so that the deity we are apart of is strengthened by our existence. When the deity is strong enough, we will return to the deity and stay there – something the Judeo-Christians call “Heaven” or “Paradise”, but it is also known as “Nirvana”.”.
Transcendence is not contrary to Honor, because Honor is the only way to achieve it, and one follows one’s own inner dignity and centrality for behaving with Honor, so the search for transcendence through Honor is very natural for the Aryan.
Meditation, as I said on the other answer, is only a search for Honor inside oneself, for burning everything that, being inside, could tie the Spirit to this world and also be contrary to an honorable behavior.
I also believe that we were godlike “in Heaven”, and then also on Earth, on Hyperborea, before abandoning it due to negative circumstances.
It seems to me that our beliefs are very similar, or at least not incompatible; only the words or the points of view that we take make an illusion of difference.
…but I have gone a long way since then, and I agree with Mr. Sommers that we really need to focus on life here on Earth, and not allow any “Heavenly” realm be our ultimate goal — as if life was not the best we have.
Burzum.org is not Thulean Perspective.
Well, I like to say that Odin has got the eye he lost looking to the “Heaven”, and the one he conserved looking to this world…
Burzum.org + Thulean Perspective = Odinic Perspective?
The one he lost was sacrificed to look into the well of the past (Urðr = Wyrd = Hamingja), not to the Heavens.
Burzum.org = only the road to Thulean Perspective. Many mistakes, but probably neccessary mistakes.
Yes! The well is the heart, the center of the blood. The blood comes from the past, from the ancestors, so the heart is truly the “well of the past”. But, if one goes back into the past through our blood, does one not reach the divine ancestors of Hyperborea? And Hyperborea was in the North Pole, exactly under the North Star, receiving from the North Star the “Black Light” that comes from the other side, from “Heaven”, from the “Black Sun”, which is the Origin of our Spirits, our Selves. It is just a matter of looking enough into the past.
If you have in mind what you said on your last post, you will see that those things you wrote on Burzum.org were not mistakes; they were products of your very accurate spiritual intuition; in the future you will surely find the evidences you need for taking back what you believed, but with a deeper understanding of it; a deeper Thulean Perspective.
Yes, Indians are nowadays, and have been since a long time, mongrels, but they weren’t when they wrote the things I exposed in my comment.
No, I do not understand transcendence in the same way as the Judeo-Christians. They believe that man cannot find transcendence within himself; our ancestors knew that transcendence was to be found in our own Spirit, in our own Self (“The fool does not know that Truth is in the Self, but is obsessed with scriptures. A purely verbal knowledge does not dissipate the anguish of becoming. Darkness is not pierced by merely saying: “Lightning.”; Kularnava-Tantra, shlokas 91-97).
Once realized, transcendence becomes immanence, and spiritual forces act in a formative way even in the biological realm, first in one’s own soul and blood, and then in the other members of one’s race.
This kind of “religion” does not conduce to the disintegration of our race, but on the contrary, to its regeneration, because what made the Aryan race better than other races was the presence of “transcendent” spiritual forces made immanent through the presence of Initiates.
And yes, this would be “un-natural”, but in the sense of being “supra-natural” and not “against nature” (after all, the human being is not “natural” in the same way as an animal, but neither is it against nature, even if it can sadly be by its own choice).
And no, there is no opposition between spiritual work and work for one’s kin. When an Aryan reaches some spiritual conquest, as I said earlier, all other Aryans benefit from it, even if they do not consciously realize it. His realization becomes a spiritual support for the other Aryans, even if he lives alone in the middle of the forest, as blood ties are invisible and know nothing about spatial limitations.
About “our planet”, I have no particular regards for it; only that it should be cared for because we live on it.
Indo-Aryan tradition knew the “supreme being” that you mention; they called him “Ishvara” or “Brahma”; but they did not consider it as supreme in any way, as True Divinity is far greater than the “Creator”; I have a small issue with the chieftain about this particular point.
About Honor, it is the only way to approach true spirituality; ascetic development is an extension of the practice of Honor to one’s inner world, as well as a support for external practice of Honor (mind control, for example, allows to control desire and fear, and so allows to behave in an honorable way).
I completely agree with you about good and evil; they are alien to the Spirit (that only cares about metaphysical knowledge or ignorance) and not the same for every race or person.
On the contrary, Honor is a manifestation of the Spirit, and is thus beyond good and evil, and motivated by an inner dignity, and this inner dignity will obviously not be detrimental for one’s race, because one’s race, being Aryan, is Aryan due to its spiritual presence; the same spiritual presence that motivates Honor in the individual. Having the same spiritual source, “Aryaness” and individual Honor will almost never be in opposition, at least for a wise observer.
About the “new race”, I meant by it a core of Aryans that will re-purify its blood and thus “return” to the ancient purity; such a race would be “new” from our point of view, and of course I never meant it to be any kind of Mulatto race, nor said anything slightly similar to that.
Thank you for the clarification. I’m ignorant about the meaning of the word Transcendence apparently, as I directly linked it to the Christian use of the word. I’m glad to see myself proven wrong. You’ve added a lot of good discussion to this blog so I was a bit surprised in seeing what I thought was a post completely in opposition to the blog itself.
I’m curious about these ancient Indians. Is there any reading you’d recommend on the subject?
Do not mention it. Well, I agree with Waldther about transcendence being an spiritual experience, but it is of course also a “higher understanding of the world and raising above our limitations” (this expression of yours, “raising above our limitations”, is the exact definition of the Indian enlightened, “Jivanmukta”, “liberated from conditioned life”), so I think that you have naturally got the right meaning for it.
I would recommend “The Yoga of Power” and “The Doctrine of Awakening” by Julius Evola; both can be easily downloaded from the internet. “Man and his Becoming according to the Vêdantâ” from René Guenón is also very good, but it is very poisonous if one does not take care while reading it; reading Evola before is a good protection from Guenon, so to speak.
I do not believe in “reincarnation” in the modern sense of the term. Blood memory. That is what I believe.
Also you say transcendence cannot happen without honor? Is it honorable then to sacrifice an animal to gods whom you or others say “do not really exist”? Because to me, animal sacrifice is meant to be a transcendental experience. Same with front line/ war in the trenches. Also sex with a WOMAN you love … these things are abused, overused, under appreciated. You can have transcendental experiences without believing in “heaven”. Heaven is for suckers.
Why would there be any “blood memory” of a mediocre European? There wouldn’t be. Only heroes are immortalised. Transcendental, spiritually.
My mistake was in thinking that the word Transcendence is always related to a concept such as Heaven. I’m in agreement with you on all of the above.
It does seem true that nothing worthless is stored in blood memory. I’m curious how that works. Perhaps my analogy with death and rebirth being like how the circulatory system works was on track after all. When we die, the ‘purity’ or ‘lightness’ within us goes with us, and whatever happens between then and rebirth removes the toxins in our blood memory like our liver does with our blood stream.
I agree 100% with all what you say here. First of all, the modern theory of reincarnation is metaphysically groundless, created only as opium for the masses. I believe that we have a “Higher Self” in Eternity, with Ahura Mazda, and that our Self descends from that Higher Self each time a new body is born from our blood in one’s race or even family, and that that human Self lives the life of that particular human existence, but the disappears with death, but the things lived by that human, spiritual and material experiences, are stored in the blood. So when another human being is created from that blood, a new Self will “reflect” form the Higher Self “above” and that new Self will inherit the memory of his ancestors, who were other human Selves, but some of those ancestors were manifestations of the same Higher Self that one has. This, I think, is related to inheriting the “Hamingja”, the spiritual force stored in the blood of one’s ancestors.
And yes, animal sacrifices, warrior experiences and sex are for sure, or at least can be, transcendent experiences. “Heaven” is only a state of Self; of the human Self that is connected to his “Higher Self” (his Valkyrie?), and this can be achieved through (real) meditation, but as well by those means you mentioned.
And of course that mediocre men can leave a memory behind in their blood, but nothing connected to spiritual conquest. Like inheriting their own defects… until one of the descendants manages to burn down all that is not worthy in the family blood and thus achieve complete re-integration of the Self with the Higher Self. As far as I can see, that would be to “become a God”, or at least to achieve the state of the primordial men (before “Adam was expulsed form paradise”).
I just got a really odd thought when you said in your previous post “Every time we die the still pure (“white”) parts of these “bits and pieces” are returned with the deity, before they are sent back to Earth, when we are reborn in the kin.”
Blood, it is like how blood works. The ‘white’ bit is the oxygen in our blood which our body uses and then sends back to Earth(the heart?) for more to start the cycle anew. I’m not sure what that would mean but it seemed relevant.
I’m still not so sure if we’re on the same page with the Transcendent thought. I still see life’s limitations and challenges as necessary. We become honorable by overcoming such things and learning in the process. If one was raised above such limitations that would mean life wouldn’t present any challenges nor any chance for honor(education). I see the cycle as ever renewing, there is always more to overcome and learn. I reject any thought of a higher existence as not only would it separate the race but it would be a place without honor, or spiritual advancement. Or maybe we are on the same page? Words are not my strong suit.
Honestly the thing that surprises me the most is that for these past few years I’ve been doing a lot of meditation; trying to connect with what is in my blood. Then one day I decide to check on this blog and I find a lot of the same ideas I’d come to believe myself were written about here. I just find it amazing that Varg, being well read in the subject and me having done no reading on the subject(I prefer starting fresh rather than building off revisionism and ideas that have been mostly lost over time, or so I thought) could come to such similar conclusions. If that isn’t proof that these beliefs are part of who we are I don’t know what is.
The difference though is that when I begin to understand such concepts I do so without language. I think this may be in our blood as well, it would explain why many things are explained in picture or concept form rather than written language. Words are easier to distort and don’t always hold their meaning. That and I don’t think language flows through our veins like concepts and memories do.
I’ll have to check out those books as well. Thanks for the rec.
” Honestly the thing that surprises me the most is that for these past few years I’ve been doing a lot of meditation; trying to connect with what is in my blood. Then one day I decide to check on this blog and I find a lot of the same ideas I’d come to believe myself were written about here. I just find it amazing that Varg, being well read in the subject and me having done no reading on the subject(I prefer starting fresh rather than building off revisionism and ideas that have been mostly lost over time, or so I thought) could come to such similar conclusions. If that isn’t proof that these beliefs are part of who we are I don’t know what is.”
I have so many of similar experiences. We ARE connected. Undoubtedly.
Though some revisionism is important to me. Considering we’ve spent 2000 years in a Christian world.
I honestly believe in a “blood memory” and that we can tap into this source of wisdom somehow. When we read the truth we know it is the truth, because the guts tells us. When we think the truth we just know it is the truth, because our brains tell us it is.
Yes, I believe so too. How else are so many “magical” events and connections be explained? There is NO way.
People will call it “new age” and “romantic”. But I will continue to blow them off as the true “closed minded fools”. I have many unique, otherwise unexplained, experiences … but I don’t have the time to explain.
But I more than “believe”, I KNOW. I am just not able to articulate that well yet. Hopefully one day I will be able to more clearly.
Is there any doubt? I have listened to “blodets røst” all my life. Or maybe it was my Hamingja (I see it as the same). It have always brought me good.
That is what Europeans should do, because unlike others we can!
I believe that the “white” in the spiritual force that ancient Aryan men (“Adam”, to use the Judeo-Christian term) had in full, but lost due to being expulsed form Hyperborea. So each generation of Aryans following that inherited some of that force, and can weaken or strengthen it, and even strengthen it so much as to reconquer the “primordial state”.
Maybe we are not exactly on the same page, but close. For becoming a Jivanmukta one has to understand, fight and conquer all those human “limitations”, so to strive for becoming one, one first needs to have being tempered by some earthly learning, or temper oneself as one can.
About the higher existence separated form the race… our race is not only Blood, it is Blood and Spirit. Maybe the Jivanmuktas are, like the Einherjar, separated from Blood, but illuminate our Spirits. Without their light, I believe, none of us would be in battle stand against the darkness of this world and age, so I think they are separate, yes, but closer to our Spirits that what we can imagine.
And yes again, our blood talks through symbols, I absolutely agree with that.
Guenon is not a good example as far as I’m concerned.
You are right; actually he converted to Islam. Do not misunderstand me, I have a great admiration for Shia Initiates, but because they are Zoroastrian, not Muslims. Guenón is not the kind of man that would care for the race; that’s why I believe that reading Evola first is so important, as he corrected many of Guenon’s approaches. But his works and his metaphysical understanding remains colossal…
You’re a great guy Santiago. On a tangent somewhat unrelated (and un-provocative) here is my mini-addendum: since you say you have little regards to our planet (yes I am familiar with the mananvantara etc), I see a differentiation between us: let me point this out clear enough to be of value. Your cosmogony involves a kind of ascension, pointing to a possibility of another planetary life. I deduce the following from this statement.
I think you may find me to be an opponent to Ahura Mazda. Do you believe that Ahura Mazda is an actual living entity, one that you could communicate with? We earlier settled that I no longer equate Ahura Mazda with Jove/yahweh. That is clear. Even so, if you believe Ahura Mazda to be more than an archetypal symbol, i.e. a living being, and you feel disdain for Ahriman then, in truth and philosophy of the arcane, where would I stand if I told you that I believe wholeheartedly that my entire eternal existence will be continually tied to and become part of the Planet Earth even unto when the earth’s own alotted time-frame is up and it too evolves upward in spirit and beauty…but even so, I find Ahriman, symbolically, to be the wise earth-loving and fulfillment of self consciousness and not as a symbol of evil, but as a symbol of self realized progress. This is all taken for granted that I am simply adding to the parallel discussion and not wishing to promote any ideas other than that which is either constructive or intelligent and not deterring potential new comers to an awakening of the Thulean Perspective. Cheers to Varg!
Hi Ron; you are a nice person too, and I do not believe discussions about spirituality to be provocative in any way; I know I am stubborn sometimes, so excuse me in advance for that.
Yes, I believe that Ahura Mazda is an entity, but that is not enough. Being the Infinity, it cannot be considered “an” entity, but only… well, Buddha used to use “negative theology” to define Nirvana (= the state of Spirit rejoined with Ahura Mazda), so maybe we should rather say what Ahura Mazda is not; when you have said everything that he is not, then you have Ahura Mazda; anyway, in metaphysics it is called “Supra-Being” (because “pure Being” is Ahriman, as principle of cosmic manifestation, or Demiurge, the “Creator” worshiped by the Judeo-Christians and modern Indians), and sometimes I refer to it as “Infinite Divine Essence”. It cannot be considered as “living” because “life” is something that only exists in the cosmos; Ahriman is not “alive” either (because he is not cosmic in itself, but creator of cosmos), and our Spirit (Atman) is not alive either, but only is joined with life (our soul as psico-life force) by means of its manifestation, the “Self” (called in India “Jivatman”, that means: “living Spirit”, because it is joined to the vital force of one’s blood). But yes, I consider Ahura Mazda to be far more that a symbol, even an archetypal one; the establishment of communication between Ahura Mazda and one’s Self is actually Self-knowledge.
The ascension I have in mind is more like going first to one’s own center and then going up, not to another planet, but back to the Hypercosmos with Ahura Mazda, having first experimented the trials of life and having defeated the powers of matter.
About your belief of your connection with this planet, which I sincerely respect, you are saying (correct me if I misunderstood) that you are not connected only to this planet as it is, but to this planet as long as it “evolves” (I prefer: “as long as it is spiritualized”) to higher forms of existence.
To that I reply that I also believe that we, as Spirits, came “inside” this cosmos for battling against Ahriman and his material powers and thus spiritualize the cosmos, and I agree that in doing so we can achieve knowledge of our own strength, something impossible for those remaining “Above”. The problem is double here: first, I agree that this is possible because of Ahriman’s creation and resistance, but I do not think that he is conscious of being “useful” for something good. Speaking in symbols, Ahriman (or Ahriman’s cosmic power) can be the “World Serpent”, but this is not good unless one dominates it, as in the ancient Mexican symbol of the Eagle dominating the Snake (the Spirit dominating Energy/Matter). Second: I do not believe that this “spiritualization” of Earth and the cosmos in general is going to happen by itself, but need the conscious work of a whole race of divine men; that is, a pure Aryan race directed by Initiates, and working on full planetary scale, as in the days of Atlantis and Hyperborea before.
If this could be done, then we could follow the destiny of this planet in which we (our race; I am too young to say anything about me) have fought and suffered (but also learned and enjoyed) beyond material limitations, and take it as conquered ground for the Spirit and the Black Light.
I would never consider someone who desires this, as you seem to do, as an enemy of Ahura Mazda (can the Infinite have real enemies?), but on the contrary, a spiritual warrior of Mithras’s army, as all of we Aryans are to some degree, consciously or not. Otherwise we would feel fine among the darkness of this age, and this is obviously not the case of us commenting here.
I believe that this issue that you have pointed, the “spiritual adventure” of this planet, or better, of our race in this planet, taken not only as suffering at the hands of Ettin powers, but as an active fight to take the whole of the Earth into a “higher level” is rather a very enriching discussion; you can find some things about this on Miguel Serrano’s books. But it is like a kind of very difficult to achieve goal; let’s try to survive first, and then see if we can burn the wood so the fire can rise free into the sky.
I hope you don’t mine me intruding again.
The way I see things is that suffering and Earthly limitations are to a degree required for our spiritual and intellectual advancement. I do believe that we were part of some infinity like this Ahura Mazda you talk about but I think that when we left it that is was a one way trip. When we left that behind we cut our ties with the beginning and any chance of an end. We entered into a circular cycle that is to last for eternity. Your view of us ascending back into such a conscious is linear, unless you see it as a cycle with us returning and then descending again later on.
If one was to ascend into a greater consciousness, they’d be at the end of the line. They’d be at a ‘point’. Being at a point there is no movement, no advancement so there must be stagnation. If that is part of a cycle that would mean that with a physical existence we gain something, lose it by staying in an ascended state, and then begin anew. This greater conscious itself is the purest for of ettin for without the laws of a physical world there can only be chaos. Just like how the jews bring decay to our society they talk about this existence as the endgoal for their religions, even with some Theistic Satanists calling it by the name ‘Chaos’ directly.
Quite simply I say that we live for the journey and the many challenges that we meet along the way. It brings honor and glory to overcome, and only in an Earthly existence with ‘laws’ that we have no control over can we constantly be advancing ourselves to overcome said obstacles. Perhaps we will ascend back into some greater entity when this universe has nothing left to throw at us, but if that should happen I don’t think it’d be long before we started anew.
When points are made on us bringing our honor with us on death, and that ‘purity’ or ‘whiteness’ being of import ‘on the other side’. I can’t help but think in essence that the part of us left behind needs it on some level. If it resides out of material existence and is in a constant state of decay it would need that to stay pure itself.
No intrusion at all
Well, ascending back into Ahura Mazda (or better, into our own Higher Self, that is “part” of Ahura Mazda; see The Man of Light in Iranian Sufism by Henry Corbin) could be considered as a “line”, but the circle is the line of the circle (very redundant, I know…) and the line which I am talking about is the vertical line in the center of the circle; the line that is the esoteric meaning of the Irminsul, the “World Tree”.
Serrano used to say that we “enter” each time to fight again, so maybe you and he are right and we will not stay too much with Ahura Mazda before we will to come back for that cosmic struggle that I was talking about earlier.
The “point” of Ahura Mazda, or the Black Sun, in Infinite, so to be there is to be everywhere and non-where at the same time. There is not movement or non-movement, but pure activity, because as the ancient Greek said, the essence of the Gods is made of pure activity.
If someone manages to ascend through the line, he does not loose what he conquered on earth; he takes his own body, or rather, the power for manifesting a body, with him, and can use that power for manifesting in whatever plane of the cosmos he desires (cf. The Yoga of Power: A Siddha, according to Milarepa, “goes at will through existences as an untamed lion freely roams a mountainous region.”).
About chaos, is only a part of the cosmological scheme; actually, it refers not to the world of Ahura Mazda, but to matter created by Ahriman before ordering it (“and the Spirit of God = Ahriman moved over the Waters = matter in chaos state”, is said in Genesis, or something like that).
About your last point, regarding the convenience or inconvenience of the white part of staying pure in the other side, consider this theory from Evola in “Ride the Tiger”:
“Elevating oneself above that which can be understood in the light of human reason alone; reaching a high interior level and an invulnerability otherwise hard to attain: these are perhaps among the possibilities that, through adequate reactions, are offered in the cases in which the night journey allows almost nothing to be perceived of the landscape that one traverses, and in which the theory of Geworfenheit, of being absurdly “flung” into the world and time, seems to be true, especially in a climate in which physical existence itself must present a growing insecurity. If one can allow one’s mind to dwell on a bold hypothesis which could also be an act of faith in a higher sense-once the idea of Geworfenheit is rejected, once it is conceived that living here and now in this world has a sense, because it is always the effect οί a choice and a will, one might even believe that one’s own realization of the possibilities Ι have indicated-far more concealed and less imaginable in other situations that might be more desirable from the merely human point of view, from the point of view of the “person” -is the ultimate rationale and significance of a choice made by a “being” that wanted to measure itself against a difficult challenge: that of living in a world contrary to that consistent with its nature, that is, contrary to the world of Tradition.”
Hello, here you have made it clear what each symbol represents. Let’s see: the state of Spirit rejoined with Ahura Mazda equates to Nirvana. This Supra-Being is only known by what he is not. Ahriman represents the demiurge, father of the material realm. Ok, so this is where Steiner’s sculpture of Ahriman may bring light to why I asked the questions. This means Steiner (jew) did not equate Ahriman to yahweh like you do. Because in my mind that Ahriman sculpture does not look like Ahriman it looks like yahweh. But according to you Santiago, it would conclusively look like both yahweh and ahriman (same symbol). In your system presented, the powers of matter– both ahriman and yahweh–is not good unless subjugated for one’s own realization. As Blavatsky has said, paraphrasing, There is no hell, just greater levels of denseness or grossness, therefore the greater in matter a spirit descends, then more laws exist as well. Chaos to me is a little bit more broad of a term–for purposes of clarity, setting aside the chaos religion—it could mean many things such as infinity, darkness, anima mundi, world serpent, waters, the christian hell, aether, flux, etc. So I am just pointing out that the symbol Ahriman can’t possibly embody the entirety of the term chaos. It’s an unclear term, well, maybe Socrates can enlighten us about the meaning of it. Cheers!
Yes, you are absolutely right about the existence of more laws in lower planes of matter (have you approached Gurdjieff’s Fourth Way?); I would only add that this earthly plane is not the worst one in which one can be.
This is in relation with the notion of “hell”, and you said that for you chaos means “things such as infinity, darkness, anima mundi, world serpent, waters, the christian hell, aether, flux, etc.” and that, being so broad, it cannot be embodied by Ahriman. Let me recommend a small monograph by Ercole Quadrelli, under the pseudonym of “Abraxas”, in “Introduction to Magic”, volume 1, called “Knowledge of the Waters” ( here: http://es.scribd.com/doc/29879002/Julius-Evola-Abraxas-Knowlege-the-Waters#download ), where he shows that Ahriman-Yahweh’s “cosmic power” has been symbolized by all the things you have mentioned, and you will find much more about this symbol in “The Hermetic Tradition”, by Julius Evola, here: http://es.scribd.com/doc/34979709/Julius-Evola-Hermetic-Tradition . (I don’t know if you are a member of this web, Scribd; if not, become one, it is worth it!).
Greetings!
‘The Neadnerthals understood and fathomed eternity well, but Homo sapiens did not, and not those mixed with Homo sapiens either.’ With the greatest respect, how can you make a statement like this? How can you possibly know? I struggled to read the remainder of the blog post after that statement.
Take it for what it is; a hypothesis, based on knowledge about e. g. savants and autists and their extraordinary and different (compared to non-autist) abilities, and also on intuition. Read atala.fr for more on the Neanderthal subject.
My birthday(happy birthday to you btw) is on the 22nd. of june, summersolstice. How would you describe a ritual marking that day in pre-christian Scandinavia? I’m not asking for a ritual to celebrate myself but I would like to hold a ceremony marking the withdrawel of the sun. I have to say, I am very intrigued by your description of the initiation ritual on Halloween, in the comments.
check out the burning wheel, rolling down the steep hill, from 00:45 to 00:54
Perfect article.
Note that the disgusting modern dogma “Birth, Life, Death” no longer exists. The good Jews have understood that it was not enough to destroy the mind and the existence of us “Goyim”. Now is “Birth, Work, Death”.
Not for long…
I think peoples notion of a linear universe is a tool used by the judeo-christians to make people off center with themselves and despair in ultimate enropy- that is unless you give your life to their god for salvation from this entropy aka “satan” aka just one part of a cycle!
But they still despair, even if they do give their lives to that false god….
Argh it is so bizarre like they have no mind of their own! Like they are actually afraid to experience life or their own personality.. I was at a seed exchange here in the midwest USA where I live now, and saw some handsome young blonde blue eyed christian zombie men! It was terrible! It’s like they’re on drugs! We need a white persons rehab from christianity summer camp or something. Hunting, fishing, bows, fire and truth!
Yes, the “big bang” never made any sense to me, even when i was a child,, it is simply illogical! It had always struck me as a way for them to falsely legitimize the idea of one god creating everything.. more logical it sees to me that if things exist now, as they seem to. and time is relative, and if all things during this “big bang” were condensed into one singularity, therefore time would not exist, or else be comparable to eternity, therefore existence must be eternal- because obviously existence is happening right now! or something like that, i hope that made a little bit of sense,
It did very much indeed. My wife is writing about this topic right now, and I am sure you will find her post very interesting. It will be posted on atala.fr within a few days.
I will definitely check it out
I’m deeply sorry to ask a question so irrelevant to this post.
Why does Finland lack documentation and archeological findings that date to the Viking age? It all seems so odd, for example, no runestones are found in Finland.
Generally, I’m unable to find any sort of written history from those ages regarding Finland.
Why is Finnish considered a finno-ugric language rather than a germanic one?
It all seems so clustered to me.
Would you expect to find rune stones in Greece too? Probably not, because just like the Finns the Greeks didn’t use runes either…
The Finnish language is considered a Finno-Ugric language and not a Germanic one because it is a Finno-Ugric language, and has very little indeed to do with Germanic. Germanic is more similar even to Greek than it is to Finnish.
I am very surprised to receive such question from a Finn…
Are you serious? Why would Finnish be considered Germanic? One or two proto-germanic words does not make a language germanic…
Here’s an example
Kuningas (King)
Kuninkaan (kings)
Kuninkaalla (The king has??)
Kuninkaan (Used before things owned by this king or a feature of him)
Kuninkaassa would mean something is in the king
the list goes for ever look it up, my point is that the grammar is completely different and the best known example is noun cases like that wich don’t make any sense in other european langueges (save the finnic/magyar branch) I also used Kuningas as an example how we have shared vocabularity. Some other person might know how to explain this better.
Swedes(Jew lackeys) destroyed our culture and history when they started to colonize Finland.
So even in the 12th century Jews ruled the world, had their lackeys in Sweden and wanted to occupy Finland in order to e.g. get closer to the borders of the (as often claimed here) right-wing Russia? Sorry man, but this sounds unrealistic and rather funny to me.
Jew Lackey was just a metaphor for power hungry Christian priests and Kings of sweden who used the shiny new religion as an excuse to attack Finland in masses.(they were basically converted to judaism).
Just to clarify I do not believe into any kind of jewish conspiracies….
http://images.cloud2.vixdata.com/data/media/photo/large/545/545552b9-cce1-4a10-8f06-b4fdbca4b546.jpg
this is me celebrating the new year 2009/2010. The speck below the white square is my face. I am holding a tube and inside it, is a stick that has a huge swaztika(around 1 square metre in size) attached at the end. On each end of the swastika I had attached what is called a “fontaine” piece of fireworks. We tried to light them all at once but as you can see only managed to get 2 going. It was still a blast though, the 2 lid was on opposit ends, so it was enough to make it spin. When the fire works took off, I started runing around runing around imagining I was a Stuka dive bomber! My friends had to dodge me, I charged right between them! The picture is taken with a regular old cellphone, by a friend of mine and is of very poor quality. The fireworks and the motion distorts it even further. I have it in 24″ x 30″ on my wall!
Sorry, if my questions sound a bit stupid to you, but I haven’ t quite grasped it yet. The actors impersonating the winter spirits are initiates, the boys trying to earn the name and thus the hamingja of the person buried in the burial mound, right? But why are these boys impersonating the winter spirits?
What was that cattle sacrifice about again?
Have you read the entire 12 volumes of the Golden Bough or only the abridged edition of 1922?
You mix two different high festivals, more than a month away from each other. I am sorry, but I have to just refer you to SRAS. It’s all there.
No, i did not read all the 12 volumes. I only read what I found interesting (but I did read the entire abridged 1922 edition). Most of it is about very…. uninteresting things, really, not at all related to Europe or anything European. Frazer was after all an anthropologist….
I totally agree with you about the circular concept of nature/life, but what do you think Ginnungagap is representing, is it just a christian addendum?
Ginnungagap is the opening of the burial mound/cave, where the Sunlight meets the darkness inside.
In my opinion it’s all symbolic. Winter represents death because it is the season where animals hibernate and all the trees look dead. Spring is when everything ‘comes back to life’ and thus represents birth.
As for cattle sacrifice, It’s a way to show that without death there can be no life, and without life there can be no death. Death is an important part of their life ritual as it shows how the two are interlinked. At least that is my opinion on the subject.
The stopping of the race mixing is a difficult work.
When the Youth turns on the tv all they see is how cool an interracial relationship is. Everywhere we all were bombarded by interracial shit! So what can we do to stop this?
As an American teenager, I just suggest to throw your idiot box and your iPhone out the door. I gave mine to a psychological hospice so the retarded kids can have some entertainment, that is the correct audience for what is on the TV of course.
Yessir, but my mind and thinking is clean…
The question is how to show the rest of the world that race mixing and other stuff like that is wrong.
The world is to strong influenced by this NWO bastards..
People turn to the TV for entertainment. The solution is simply to get families more involved with their children, and the children more involved with real things. I believe the Christians have a saying about ‘idle hands’. It’s one of the few things that I think they got right.
You cannot take something away without putting something better in it’s place.
Ha Ha Ha! I like that. Some years ago I had a tv, and I walked into the room and there was some interracial sitcom playing. So I took my tv outside and shot it.
Note. Don’t shoot your tv if you live in a city.
I have a tv now, but all I watch is hockey. Canadian, eh.
Do you think we came from the ices of time, like the Auðumbla myth suggests it ? The idea is appealing: Never dead, only frozen between lifes for our living brothers
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Anyway, great article Mr. Vikernes and happy “eternity”day.
Well, this post just stated that the myth does not suggest anything like that, so no, I don’t think so.
Well, I tried to understand the Auðumbla myth (metaphor) through an eternal return point of view. So, what is your point of view about Auðumbla ? I am a physicist beginning to learn mythology (mostly Celtic and Nordic) when I find time to and I always try to make connections between concepts and mythology (like experiment and theory)
Auðhumbla is the the cow they used to slaughter on the burial mound as a sacrifice on Halloween. They then smeared blood all over the actress playing the role of Hel inside, or they simply let the blood drip down unto her, through the root of the structure (if a structire was used in this context). You can also draw links from this part of the ritual to a Roman ritual, which is very similar (and I think also known from the horrible “Rome” TV series by BBC); a cow is slaughtered and the blood colours the seer/sorceress below red, enabling her to make prophecies et cetera.
Auðhumbla means “silence”; after the horn of sound (Gjallarhornet) sounds (to open up the grave) and the cow is killed on the burial mound there is a silence.
Thank you. I understand much better now. Another last question (sorry, i know it is late), what does this silence mean ? Does it simply mean that Hel is going to talk (give her secrets), or does it have a more complexe meaning ?
The stanza begins with “I ask for silence from all”, and my best guess is that the young man or woman entering this scary place must be silent, and be able to keep silent, so that Hel (the actress) can speak her mind. The initiate must learn and understand these poems, to be allowed to continue his/her “education”. Therefore you often hear the actress say (in Völuspâ) “Do you still not know enough or what?”, because she needs the initate to say the right thing, to give her the “keyword”, the “password”, for her to move on to the next step. If he or she doesn’t sit there in silence and pay attention to what “Hel” is saying there is no way he or she will learn and understand these things. The moment the initiate has understood what he or she needs to say to the actress they will go on to the next step…
Like with Parzifal, when he meets the Fisher King and fails to ask him the right question…. he doesn’t give him the “key word”. Parzifal hasn’t understood what he should have understood to gain “the knowledge of the grave/grail”, and therefore he fails — but he can try again, the next Halloween, and either eventually succeed or just stay a “child” forever.
Why is the blood of a slaughtered cow enabling the Hel actress to make prophecies?
It is an initiation ritual for children and young men and women, and it is intentioally made scary; to succeed the young person has to slaughter a cow (in itself quite a feat for a child), and then have the courage to enter the grave. If the actress impersonating death isn’t scary enough, the blood dripping down on her will certainly help a lot. All children with less then much courage will flee screaming in terror rather than have the courage to not only sit down, but also to do so in silence. So I will claim that the blood makes her so scary that the child will remember whatever she says better… (the scared ones who failed can return and try again next year, until they succeed).
Why prophecies? Because she just tells what will happen; Summer will “die”, Winter will come, Baldr will be killed, Ragnarök will come, et cetera. She can make prophecies about this because it’s the same that happens every year. That’s the whole point too; the myth of eternal return enables us all to make accurate predictions about the future. So why are we afraid? We know what is to come; no matter what happens to us, no matter what horrors weface, if we know the secrets of the grave, we know that we have nothing to fear; your Honour lives forever. You cannot die! You too are eternal. You too return eternally.
Thank you for your detailed answers. One more: Do you have a different opinion about the holy grail now, then you had here: http://www.burzum.org/eng/library/paganism02.shtml ?
Blood, kosher slaughter, is Audhumbla the Red Heifer? Should Europeans adopt ritual slaughter to become more ruthless?
No, I don’t think so — but slaughering animals is really not that horrible. We have always done that… how else would we survive in Europe?
An interesting read. I was actually having a conversation with a friend of mine about this very topic when I decided to log on and saw this article. It is amazing how much we have lost or has been distorted by the mongrel Judaic religion.
The reason for the lack of a creation myth is quite simple. Such myths have no effect on the here and now nor the future. I’m sure it was something thought about and talked about but overall it is very unimportant and would not find it’s way into our ancient religions.
As for the end, only a jewish mind would want or have any interest in an end of life. Only one that rejects nature would want to see an end of it. All concepts of ‘afterlife’ I have read about are worlds where the ettins reign supreme. From the concept of ‘Heaven’ to the Satanic concept of ‘Chaos’ it is one in the same. It is a world of instant gratification, and mental decay. It is the opposite of life.
My theory on creation is that we once existed in such a way, and the best among us realized it for what it was and rejected it. At that point the world was made and we existed in ‘Hyperborea, Atlantis, Old Albion, etc.’ until we then left that behind and started in the world as Neanderthals. As whites we realized that we needed life and it’s various challenges to make ourselves into something better. The jews on the other hand care only for greed and chaos so they seek a return to the prior existence. I’ve come to such theories by studying various religions and trying to decipher how each has been twisted over time.
Of course, our existence now is indeed a circle. Birth, Life, Death, After-Death, Repeat. Being a circle there is no end and the ‘before’ is of no importance to the here and now being cut off completely. Whatever various theories we all have do not matter. For our new religion to succeed it must not have a creation myth. Such things can never be proven and they have no impact on society.
I remember when I was in school and we learned the Greek myth about Demeter and her daughter Kore (Persephone) being married to Hades. It was probably the only time when the teachers told us about our ancestors’ world view and why we have differnt seasons and why it all repeats every year. However, I don’t understand why they did not teach us anything from Slavic mythology realting to that although it was a Polish school. Anyway, except for that we have only learned about Genesis, Armageddon and other Judeo-Christian lies propagating their linear world view.
P.S. Happy Birthday to Varg
Indeed! And he knows half of us half as well as he should like, and like less than half of us half as well as we deserve.
Bilbo Baggins.
Are Loki and Logi one?
No. Logi is the flame, Loki the lightning.
Thanks for useful information. Here in Romania we also have a ritual of burning weels and roll them down. I never understood the reason of this. But now it seems to make sense. Although people who do that are no pagans at all. Probably it is a very ancient European and atavistic ritual, inherited from our cavedwellers ancestors…
Good to see your tireless work for us even in the day of your Jubilee. Bravo!
Despite the fact that I do not like to hear radio, I’m forced to listen to it almost the whole day at work because my colleagues need the “background-noise”…
However – a few days ago I heard a short report about a festival in Baden-Württemberg (South-Germany) in which 2 partys fighting or hunting (I don’t know exactly) each other. It seems to be very local. As far as I remember, one represented darkness and the other light. Immediately I remembered the descriptions in SRAS and the Sword Dance. Unfortunately I forgot the festivals name.
Yes, it is probably connected. Such swords dances are actually quite common all over Europe, in one ofrm or the other.
And we certainly to celebrate New Year’s Eve in a similar way, using modern gun powder to make the noise, flashes and flames.
I suspect that’s the inspiration for this music video by Arkona:
I don’t have all the facts at hand but from what I’ve read and remember it was common practice across the pagan tribes to send the young boys out to live in the forest for a couple (1-2?) years, assuming the roll as the “warriors of the dead”/wolf warriors and sort of guarding the boarders (land of the ettin/utgård?). With what you say it makes sense that they then where reborn after ragnarök/renewal of the year and became men/gods of the tribe.
That reminds me of this scene:
I wish i die so i can be born again as a wolf or bird or something else free creature
Or you could stop being too negative and find inner peace and higher knowledge in this current life of yours and WAIT for your life to end and finally die as a powerful, strong and wise finn.
Start by reading more books. A good one to start is Oswald Spengler’s “Der untergang des abeslandes”, suomeksi “Länsimaiden perikato”.
Next 1984. That’s a good one. Also “Animal farm” is great. I highly suggest you read even “religious” books. It’s always good to know your enemy and have knowledge of their rhetoric.
I try but i’m angry all the time, the economy is going shit and were probably going to be homeless like Greek and i heard that they bring twice as much of immigrants to Finland soon or something like that, this is bs you can’t trust anyone these days better to sleep with my knife under the pillow
You need to keep your mind off of that crap.
Just sit back near a campfire, stargaze for some while, and immerse yourself in some of this:
That’s what I did when I found my progress as a human going an unstable way. I took a week long camping trip with my brother and a friend, doing exactly that each night.
Europe and our people are in hot waters, but we don’t need any depressed or edgy cunts on our side; which is the side of the free, Pagan man loyal to his kin.
correct me if i’ m wrong, so, you’re living in north Suomi, Lapland, and you are worried of the Greek immigrants arriving there or immigrants generally? mind you, the average economical level of a nation isn’t always tied with its intelligence level at least not around Europe… i’ d be interested in trying to read some of the articles that are published there, see how journalists are spreading the “truth” on the north…
No not Greek immigrants, the third world immigrants like Somalians and arabs who live like kings in Finland and commit alot crimes mostly rapes and robberies, but the economy like people lose jobs and country goes to debt like Greek, there are many homeless people there. I’m sure most of the people in Finland vote for right-wing movements but they never win, probably cause the elections are tricked i’m sure about that.
The elections can well be “tricked” surely with an indirect or even a direct way which is an intolerable thought to conceive, particularly for such a developed society as the one in Finland. Do trust your folk, be strong, and unite!
I do trust my folks but i don’t trust my government, who knows maybe our president is a jew well he has that jew grin
http://b.vimeocdn.com/ps/277/960/2779606_300.jpg
or our prime minister who is one greedy asshole (sorry for my bad language)
http://files.kotisivukone.com/tapion.ajatukset.net/jyrki_katainen_261008.jpg
Also media does try to hide who the criminal is usually they just say “foreigner man” or just man robbed, raped etc. but the police and right wing movements don’t hide it they show us the real statistics and muslims have high number in crimes, the left wing groups always say “but it’s their culture we just have to be nice to them and teach them” but it’s bs, you can give them anything they want but they won’t change it’s fact like look Sweden nowadays…
I agree. How you explain the part which tells about the re-population of Midgar by Líf and Lífþrasir ?
Life returns after winter. It’s that simple. The grass becomes green and starts to grow again, the trees grow leaves, etc.
Lîf means “life”. Lîþrasir means “which holds unto life”.
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