We are quick to praise and hail our Pagan forebears for all the good they brought into this world, and rightfully so, but Ancient Europe was not only health, youth, beauty, philosophy, flowery meadows and old trees. There is a dark side to Ancient Europe that we don’t often speak about. It is not just Judeo-Christianity that causes European brothers to kill each other en masse.
In the first century BC the Pagan Julius Cæsar was in huge personal debt (to whom?….. [I have not yet found out to whom he was in debt, although this might be well known to historians, but at least all moneylenders in Rome were Jewish]), and he needed a war to get the money to pay his debt. So he launched his campaign in Gaul, over the course of eight years resulting according to himself in 1.000.000 Gauls dead, most of them civilians buthcered by his legionaires. He looted the land and the moneylenders had their money…
Vercingetorix throws down his arms at the feet of Julius Cæsar, by Lionel Noel Royer (1899);
Although to my knowledge not that bloody, fairly similar attacks by Rome was carried out against Illyria, Dacia, Britannia, Belgae, Germania and so forth. They were certainly not afraid to get their hands bloodied with the blood of their brothers elsewhere in Europe.
However, not only the Romans behaved this way. Tribes all over Europe fought wars against each other, and occasionally wiped each other out completely. And the Romans too several times suffered a fate similar to the ones they inflicted on others; Roma was sacked repeatable, by both Gauls, South-Scandinavians (i. e. Germans) and Huns, and during one of the campaigns against Germania the Romans, three whole Legions and their civilian followers, were completely wiped out or enslaved as they were attacked by South-Scandinavians under the leadership of Arminius (Hermann) in The Battle of Teutoburger Wald.
South-Scandinavians (erroneously depicted with horned helmets…) in battle with Romans, by Otto Albert Koch;
Dacians butchering Roman legionaires, who were not well equipped to deal with the Dacians armed with their national weapon, the falx. The Romans were so shocked by their encounter with the Dacians, whose falces cut through their helmets and shields and everything, that they improved their helmets because of this – one of very few improvmenets in armour made in Classical Antiquity;
Roman helmet before and after meeting Dacians (notice the added forehead protection on the one to the right);
So the big questions is of course; why? Why did they kill each other in such numbers and so routinely and effortlessly? They butchered men and women, civilians no less than warriors, and enslaved the rest. Why?
There is only one true answer to that question, and that answer is agriculture. As claimed before, it is the spread of agriculture that sends man into a life of misery. All of a sudden man became malnutritioned, because he ate only one type of food. All of a sudden famine became a problem, because entire populations made themselves dependant on theirs crops, and when the crops failed they had no food. All of a sudden groups of men began attacking and killing others, because they had to steal the crops of others to survive. All of a sudden slavery appeared, as men needed labourer to attend to the fields. All of a sudden tyranni appeared, as the man with plenty of food began to extort those who hadn’t. All of a sudden villages, towns and eventually cities began to appear, as people gathered around the tyrants who controlled the food supplies. All of a sudden prostitution appeared, as some women no longer had any other means to feed themselves. All of a sudden borders appeared, as the tyrants wanted to secure the lands for themselves. Agriculture was the root to civilisation, and civilisation the root to war; of the senseless butchering and enslavement of others – of racial brothers and sisters.
The healthy war is called simply the duel. It was fought between two champions, each representing his tribe, party or cause, and their duel settled the score. No need for mass murder. No need for violent death at all; the winner didn’t even commonly kill the loser in such duels. Why would he? There is more Honour in allowing him to live. There is more Honour in accepting him as a Brother again after the fight, like we often did after fights when I was a child. I got my bests friendships from those born from a fist-fight.
The agricultural society, and in particular civilisation, that we saw most prominently in Rome and Greek, was an unnatural environment for man. It was destructive, disruptive and simply bad for a human being used to a hunter-gatherer lifestyle for hundreds of thousands of years. It turned a peaceful hunter-gatherer into a murderous legionaire, a wild warrior, a brutal berserk, a bloodthirsty villain.
A few thousand years have passed, and we still live in agricultural and indeed civilised societies, and I guess we are getting more and more used to this lifestyle, and understanding better and better what we must change for it to become more healthy. I don’t think any of us should have any hope that it will go away anytime soon. Agriculture and civilisation is here to stay, whether we like it or not. What we can do is to make sure we keep the internal conflicts to the duel level, and rather react with horribly destructive war against outside aggression. We have to, because everyone else does. If we don’t we will be overrun by Asia.
At least many of us are intelligent human beings, and when the 5th column (i. e. the Jews and their lackeys) have been removed from Europe we can focus on rebuilding a healthy, good, philosophically enlightened, knowledeable, just, beautiful, green, scientifically advanced, powerful and Pagan confederacy. A European Europe!
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“Agriculture and civilisation [may be] here to stay,” but who is to say We can’t curtail it a bit with Our own influence? As You, Varg, and I would hope most of Us on here, see Our (= European) Enlightenment banishing the (Jewish) Darkness little by little yet progressively (!), how can We not see—or at least hope and be optimistic—that the detriment of agriculture and “civilization” will be banished with Our positive mentalities?
For indeed, the past 10.000 years, agriculture has proven – directly or indirectly, inadvertently or deliberately – the culprit of chaos and warfare, death and violence, and general crimes.
“The duel” was very awesome to read about, and it makes sense as it always has to me (intuition). Indeed, Our Forebears were not “blood-thirsty, savage, brethren-killing” folk; We settled feuds honourably, with dignity, respect and even kindness in this context. Ultimately, We settled this with true Love.
I especially loved Your wording/perception: “There is more Honour in allowing him to live.” Of course, this ‘wording’/perception/disposition on such matters belonged to Our Forebears first.
It makes me think of my wording of (physical) feuds: to be defeated humbles oneself and builds character. It is good to be put in one’s place occasionally.
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Bravo. We must shun fratricidal conflict and direct all our energy against the enemies of our people. Well said.
Without agriculture, and I find that to be obvious, the rise of cultures and civilizations was impossible. Not even the taming of wild animals was enough. Humans needed agriculture in order to evolve into the creators of high cultures and civilizations.
With the “discovery” of agriculture, it is also a known fact that humans did still raise domestic animals, did hunt and did gather what nature had to offer. They didn’t simply turned into vegetarians. The had their crops, their cows, sheep, swine, etc. So, they didn’t eat just one type of food and if the crops were screwed, out of whatever reasons, they did not starve, nor were they malnutritioned.
I am convinced that this is not “The Reason” to wage war on anybody.
The reasons for war are many, just as the reasons for petty quarrels are among simple people: envy, greed, jealousy, insults, etc. You name it.
Does anybody think that countries or empires cannot wage wars based on such simple motives? Why not?
And our people knew greed. It is not an exclusively jewish character trait. We know it too and our forefathers also knew it.
Of course there were and are wars to save yourself and yours, but most aggression wars were led for profit and for glory. Not only wars, but pillaging raids too. The vikings are the best known example, but even Alexander Macedon did the same “profit and glory” thing. Or the dacians, pillaging greek and roman provinces south of the Danube. And the list goes on. None of the examples mentioned above were starving people, out of primitive societies. Actually quite the contrary is the case.
I believe I have made my point.
Now let us get to Gaius Julius Caesar.
Before becoming a dictator, he was a general (and a consul). Not even in the Roman republic era could a general start a war without an order, simply because he wanted it, out of whatever reasons.
And especially in Caesar’s situation at that point (in debt, or not) and in that specific political moment, it would have been far easier and cheaper, for Caesar, to simply kill the jew and get on with his life. It would have been nobody’s concern, if a patrician, as Caesar was, killed some jewish immigrant in Rome.
Each one should look into his, or hers, own soul and ask himself what would make him, or her, kill and die … and for what?
I know my reasons are many.
You forget one thing; only an agricultural society can feed an army. It’s that simple.
There were duels and quarrels between families and such before too, but not war.
A large scale war for a large community. A small scale war (duel, quarrel), for a small community. Same thing, the numbers taken into consideration.
It is not the same. Individuals and families fight for themselves, and very rarely too. Tyrants have huge armies who fight for pay, whenever their master tells them to. Big difference.
Sure it is. A socio-political system is the accurate reflection of the individuals forming it.
We shouldn’t idealise anything. A small alemanni tribe can be as greedy and as wicked as a huge roman empire, for example. For both of them, the numbers taken into consideration, it is the same catastrophy losing, let’s say, 20% of their soldiers, or of their warriors.
The only real difference is between the terms “soldier” and “warrior” and I am sure I must not explain that one. But except for this one and the mentioned numbers, there is no socio-political difference between them. Only the capacity to create high cultures and civilization is a difference.
Without an empire of some sort (and there are a few), there can be no high culture and no high civilization, which can also not be possible without the agriculture you mentioned.
Besides, you sound like a pacifist right now.
War is healthy and it serves a purpose.
And not every huge socio-political structure is a destructive one, led by tyrants. Small and insignificant countries can also be led by tyrants, as far as my knowledge of history goes.
So agriculture was needed, in order to create high cultures and civilizations, with the empires that go along with them, while nobody said those structures are perfect, just as small scale socio-political structure aren’t perfect, each one out of its own reasons.
I’m a curious guy: are you against the european high culture and civilization?
Because, you see, it is the only one still standing.
I think Michael Jackson is good person compared to other noisy negroes, he’s not aggressive and polite.
This is interesting! I wrote an article with a few similarities to this on my blog a couple days ago. Its nice to know what I was saying at least the couple aspects on common were confirmed.
“A European Europe!”
Dat’s raciss!
Jepp
I hope so…
So, is “scientifically advanced” just a survival tactic to be dropped as soon as Europe ceases to be threatened (not that it will happen soon …), or something actually desirable?
As Varg has said before, we were scientifically advanced in antiquity anyway…People make the mistake that we need technology to fully grasp science…If the world freezes over in an ice age and all electricity/hardware is destroyed and cut off, our progress will not be lost.
It seems that such “advance” was *nothing* compared to today, and I think he did not elaborate much on that, anyway.
(Yes, I do buy that myth contained a number of scientifically correct data, but not nearly as much as we certainly have today.)
Of course, but this is the legacy of paganism, the scientific progress was (mostly) halted then continued in the Renaissance…My point is even with a return to primitivism, this progress will not be lost. On the contrary, we will have the freedom and space to explore and research it properly without distractions or other priorities
They are not advanced in technology. They are advanced in their copying skills.
Who … ?
East Asians.
Your comment was supposed to be some replies below, no?
This post is equally alarming and breathtaking.
Great thing with the duels, then my assumption was right. To spare your defeated enemy is right. When you beat them, you often have made them drop their weapon or so, thus they are unarmed = it wouldn’t be fair to kill them. A warrior should always get to die with his weapon in his hand. In my poem, the Danish king Harald invades Viken with his army, and during the battle he is instead challenged to a duel by king Sigolf of Viken who thinks it is unnecessary for so many men to die who have women and children waiting at home. They draw back their forces and are to meet in three days time. The day of the duel comes and Sigolf wins, but spares Harald and gives him permission to go back to Denmark with his life intact but honour lessened. Sigolf turns to be greeted by his own men and this is when Harald picks up his sword Mistelten again and runs it through Sigolf’s back. Sigolf lies seemingly dead on the ground, but he regains his power and when Harald goes to check if he is dead, Sigolf grabs him by the feet, throws him to the ground and puts his sword through Haralds throat. Thus ends the duel and the Vikvärjar chase the Danes back to their ships when the Danes try to attack them again. For doing this, the Danes are on their way home punished by the gods and many are brought to the bottom of the sea by Ran in a great storm. Sigolf dies soon after from his wound.
The moral is very good, but….poor Danes… you expect no heat from Denmark considering you are a Swede depicting the Danes as the bad guys?
I am very glad to hear the Norwegians are good guys, though. We are…
Thanks
Haha, I feel a bit sorry for the Danes 
But the enemy must come from somewhere, and since I am Swedish it fits naturally with a western/southern enemy (though I dislike the word since my known ancestors were not even of the Swedish tribe but of the “Bagler” tribe of Viken, and before that of Norwegian descent (ultimately from the Ynglingaätt… Hmm, but that would mean “Swedes” anyway since the Yngve-Frej figure stems from there… gah, I like the term Scandinavian better anyhow). If I lived in eastern Sweden then probably an eastern enemy would fit better what with the Russians… I must some day look into my descent on the maternal side. There is of course the “Vallon” rumors in the family, but almost all Swedes believe their ancestors were Vallons and it often turns out they weren’t. On my paternal side following grandma’s line we end up in Norway with Harald Hårfagre and Halfdan Svarte though it can’t be 100% secure, just speculations. It is well documented down to the 1500′s at least, and we’re very sure to the 1300′s, and all traces point to Magnus Barfot’s daughter Tora Magnusdotter (whose son Jon Loftsson raised Snorri Sturluson). Jon moved to Iceland and I can’t remember what the reason is why we are still in Sweden… Maybe he had a child who stayed or something or Tora had some other son or daughter from whom we come, it is a long time since I read the papers.
At first I wanted the Danes to be Christians who wanted to Christianize the men of Viken, but I just cut that out, a “true” (which of course it isn’t since I’m no expert) pagan times setting is better. It is very anachronistic the whole thing, but I can’t pay attention to every little detail. And since there’s a dragon in it, I might just label it fantasy anyway
Oh I’m sorry, Bagler was not a tribe but a political faction… Because one of my ancestors was a Baglerhövding I thought of it as a tribe… Well well. There’s even a street near to where I live that is called “Baglebovägen”
så du besluttede dig altså for at gemme dig bag et synonym alligevel?
Det gjorde jeg
Jeg synes det er bedre å gemme seg, da næsten alle andre også gør det… Hvad tykker du om de onde danerne? x) Är du aldrig inloggad på msn mer?
Merkte just at msn ikke findes mer xD
jeg tykker at de “gode” svenskere nok kunne få brug for et regimeskifte af de “onde” danerne
(advarsel linksene er deprimerende læsning, ikke noget du ikke allerede ved dog[Politiken er oven i købet en venstreorienteret avis])
http://www.sappho.dk/svenske-tilstande.htm (forfatteren blev forsøgt myrdet i onsdags, af en mand forklædt som post!)
http://politiken.dk/udland/ECE1498452/malmoe-er-sveriges-mest-morderiske-by/
http://politiken.dk/udland/ECE316358/indvandrerne-stroemmer-til-sverige-i-rekordfart/
http://politiken.dk/udland/ECE1510124/kriminalitet-standser-postbude-i-malmoe-omraade/ (er blevet pakkebud og har selv haft problemer med tyveri, til tider næsten hver dag, København har også problemer bare ikke nær så mange som Malmö)
http://politiken.dk/udland/ECE1497765/malmoe-baevrer-efter-serie-af-skuddrab/
http://politiken.dk/udland/ECE1552773/bombe-springer-uden-for-frisoersalon-i-malmoe/
http://ekstrabladet.dk/nationen/article1764414.ece
Hil Sverige
Ja här om veckan var det ju det där i Göteborg… Det verkar inte som om någon reagerar på sånt. Lyssna på låten “Frågor till far” av Svensk ungdom. Kanske danerna borde komma och ta Bohuslän tillbaka!
Ni är så välkomna!
Båhuslän was never Danish. It was Norwegian…
Oj, förlåt :/ Det var ju Danmark-Norge med styrning från Danmark, men det stämmer som du säger, Norges sydligaste landskap
Då får ni norrmän komma och ta tillbaks ert! Så får vi bättre valuta och kan åka till Sverige och handla.
jeg har en teori, om at grunden til at Sverige ikke har haft nogen større opbakning til den nationale bevægelse, er at i har koncentreret jeres indvandrere i de store byer og at der derfor er en stor del af befolkningen som ikke bliver konfronteret med denne indvandring. Har jeg ret? Jeg tænker at vi -grundet vores lille størrelse og gennemcivileserede(på godt og ondt) land, måske har en større sammenhængskraft end Sverige og derfor lægger mere mærke til hvad der sker i storbyerne selvom vi bor på landet. Håber du forstår hvad jeg mener.
En helt anden ting er selvfølgelig historien. Det er ikke så lang tid siden Danmark blev invaderet og det er meget meget lang tid vi selv har invaderet nogen
og så har Sverige jo også mange ting at være stolte af; våbenindustri, Ikea, pop musik, bil industri osv.
Danmark er bare et lille fladt land, dækket i lort(gødning) og befolket af svin(ca 6 mill. svin/ca 5 mill. mennesker/ca 4,5 mill. lego mænd)
fed sang og video, køre på repeat her!
Jo det kan nog stämma, många har ingen aning om mångfaldens baksidor. De bor koncentrerade i vissa områden (Rosengård, Bergsjön, Angered, Rinkeby), så kallade miljonstäder (sök på miljonprojekt för bakgrunden). Flera av mångfaldsförespråkarna bor i etniskt homogena områden och har inte en enda kulturberikare som bekant eller vän.
Låten är otroligt bra, det är synd att den handlar om något så hemskt bara :/
If I understood this right, you are basically saying that war between different European tribes is a fight for resources.
I can’t see why there would not be this kind of wars in a pre-agriculture world.
Perhaps africulture is not the cause of wars, but a population/resources unbalance.
Because there is not enough food resources in a pre-agricultural world to feed an army. Each man had to feed himself. He didn’t have enough to feed an army.
Well, I was thinking about something like the fight of apes on the first scenes of the movie 2001: A Space Odyssey, but thinking better about that, it doesn’t make much sense if the people is nomad. Even if they encounter another tribe that has something they need there should be plenty of it for everyone and that kind of fights must have been rare.
Not only that; before agriculture there were few humans around, and plenty room for everyone, and plenty of game, fish, nuts, berries, roots, herbs, and you name it. It just wasn’t enough to feed an army, because gathering/hunting/fishing was too time consuming for that.
They had time for art, though.
Yes. They had time for relaxation as well.
Regardless of whether one agrees with his whole vision or not, Jared Diamond in his book ‘Guns, Germs and Steel’ states some good points about pre-agricultural society and proposes a theory on why some cultures prospered and others didn’t. What’s funny, though, is that he repeatedly claims his work provides evidence against “racism”, but at the same time the whole basis for the book lies on the ground of different people having developed into different conditions. Anyway I’d recommend the book to anyone capable of critical thinking, as it manages to be at the same time a document of the current age and a book of a more universal nature, if read as such.
The European hunter/gather bloodtype (0+) (all recessive blood DNA, like blue eyes and blond hair), are not at all acceptable to agricultural foods, or even lifestyle. Our bodies are only in true balanse under ketosis (almost constantly moving), eating a diet of fish, game (meats of wild animals), wild birds, fruits, nuts, roots and other food sources you find in our European nature. Not only wars and meaningless bloodshed are results of the society “development” the last 2000 years (at least for Scandinavia), but one of Europes ongoing epidemics as we speak: diabetes. (and of course depression, overweight, heart- and cardio problems, metabolism problems, phsoriassis, gluten allergics… and much, much more).
Would it surprise you if I told you that I have blood type O as well?
Of course not. I would be really surprised if you were not. That only means a mix of none European blood. The Neandethals were 100% type 0. All other bloodtypes only occurs in Homo Sapiens, and outside Europe. Type 0 is “urblodet” and being the oldest and purest of the bloodtypes, we can successfully give blood to any person with another bloodtype, but we can only recieve by a kinsman of type 0. If you try something else, you will die! Pretty natural. Just look at nature, and you find the answers.
I am type o negative
I am very interested in origins of blood types. I, myself, am an A+ blood type… I would very much like to know, if anyone can confirm it, did it originate in Scotland. All of my research, thorough, but not professional as it may be, tells me that it did. Also, I wanted to say this is my first time posting on any of your sites and I must express my respect to your work, mr. Vikernes. Greetings to you and your family from Croatia! Hail!
After doing some research into this I too find it interesting, but not that interesting; the blood type does not say really anything about your origin. E. g. the AB blood type is from the Middle Ages, and is said to be a “race mixed” blood type, but many obviously purely Nordic individuals can have both O, A, B and AB. So, does it really say that much? I don’t think so.
I think it is largely random to be honest, I am O and I think both my parents are either O or A, the other common ones, but my grandfather was B I think, one of the rarest…does that somehow make him “African”? I don’t think so…(He was only African in that he was born in South Africa, which means absolutely nothing of course)
Well, the different blood types appeared at different times. We know for sure that all Europeans had type 0, 50 000 years ago. We know for sure that Neanderthals were 100% type 0. Type A appeared around 30 000 years ago. Type B around 11 000 years ago, and type AB between 2 500 and 1 000 years ago. Since type 0 is the the oldest of all types, the mother of all types, and as the only one being all ressecive for all others, I find this interesting. You can not determine a persons heritage by bloodtype only, but it can be a very important element/dimmention for understanding your past. There are over 70% Scandinavians with the hunter/gather bloodtype 0. In Asia the situation is about opposit in favour to type B. Then again, the Asians have been doing their agriculture much longer than north Europeians, and we all agree that they are diffrent peoples, race and maybe even species? How long have we been eating potatoes? 250 years? An split second… that is. We did in Norway not start to plant anything in the soil before long after the last ice was gone. The reason for Europeans to have other bloodtypes must be mixing of races, evolution (or degeneration if you want) or a combination of the two. Then again, blood type is maybe not the most important issue, I agree. But, it is by all means an interesting dimmention that can provide usefull information, not only about our past, but also what effects us and our bodies based on what we eat and how we live our lives today. If you put a blond, blue eyed person with type B on a stone age mans diett, and in a stone age inviroment with demand for metabolism and ability to live under a state of ketosis for a longer period of time, with just about zero carbs and mostly proteins and fat, the type B person would have had big problems, and would probably die. To put it another way, if you support Mc Donalds by eating there (wich is bad for everyone and every type and by all means), you are for a fact best off being a type AB.
Well, enough about this…
As a pagan I really enjoy this alternative blog, unfiltered, where “correct politics” is not even present and part of the vocabulary.
I am happy to have you with us here, Brage. You are more than welcome. Yes, we care no whit for political correctness here.
Your comment is interesting, and I am familiar with this from elsewhere, but I wish to stress that there *is *dissent in relation to the validity of the “blood type diets” theory that I think you are referring to.
I can add that I, being of blood type O myself, have problems with many agricultural products, and get allergic reactions to them some times, but I attribute this no less to me having being vaccinated, and to the fact that my whole body is “damaged” so many times that I have a natural imbalance in the body that cause such reactions. My jaw has been broken twice, leaving my whole face crooked/twisted, I have broken a finger once and injured my back too, and I have many cuts in the flesh too, caused by knives mainly, and all of this is causing problems too (due to a poorer than normal blood flow through those parts). I have also pulled out all four, of my “wisdom” teeth, which according to some make you less intelligent (becuase of the reduced blood flow to the brain because of this)… Not that I have noticed the latter much (but I am sure others have…
). My point is in any case that I don’t think this is because of my blood type, or at least not because of my blood type alone. There are so many factors in this equetion that we cennot explain all or even most of it by one factor alone. Or so I think anyhow…
I don’t know anything about this “blood type diets” theory. But I think the reason you might be getting a reaction to agricultural products (I’m assuming this means grains like wheat, barley, rye, oats) is that the gluten in these foods can cause the mucosa in your small intestine to “self-destruct” (auto-immune reaction) if you have a gluten intolerance (and many people do). Weak stomach acid can also not cause these long molecular chains to break down properly. It could also be a wheat allergy (which is different).
Vaccinations are indeed dangerous, as they can contain many harmful things. Almost everyone I knew this year who took a flu vaccine had the flu. I didn’t do much research on this because…I don’t take them.
I also have all my wisdom teeth out (which was OF COURSE recommended by a “Doctor” when I was younger–$$$). I’ve never heard of removing wisdom teeth doing that to your intelligence, but I’ll believe anything these days… I do wonder why we even sometimes have to remove them for teeth crowding? Is this another post-Neanderthal “gift”?
Finally, I’ve noticed you have grey hair in your photos. The cause of grey hair can be the lack of copper in your body (especially since you are not that old). Interestingly, copper is important in the maintenance of your blood vessels (read: preventing aneurysms!). ( http://curezone.com/forums/am.asp?i=1007906 ) I supplement heavily with vitamins and minerals ( http://youngevity.com/ — which work VERY well I might add) because I can no longer get them from the environment as a hunter-gatherer. In the US all the food is grown in depleted soil and with HEAVY pesticides (which further deplete nutrients), so this is becoming a big problem (a genocidal problem…). Of course, you always have the choice to eat organic, but that is not always fool-proof.
(Just adding my two cents and tiny correction):
Actually, O type blood is present in higher percentages in american indian populations (sometimes reaching 100%), then in africans and aboriginals, and then in Europeans. Among the latter, Icelanders have the highest percentage, 56%, followed by Irish/Scots/Basques with 51%, Belgians/English with 47%, Greeks/Swiss/Scandinavians with 40%, Austrians/Hungarians with 36%, Estonian/Romanian/Portuguese with 34%, Latvian/Poles/Russians with 33%, Czechs with 30%, &c. Central/southern asians are close to Europeans, and eastern asians have the lowest percentages. So, despite the not-so-factual numbers, your conclusion, correlating the more recent emergence of A (european) and B (asian) blood and the adoption of agriculture, might be accurate. However, one thing should be noted: the highest european percentages of A type blood are in the west and in the north (in decrescent order: Portuguese, Swiss, Norwegians, Swedes, Spanish, French, Danes). Sami and Eskimos have similarly high percentages, so there probably is something else to it. Fish/sea mammal fat, maybe? It’s hard to guess.
With the Rhesus blood group system, things get even more interesting: 1% of RH- blood in africans/asians/indians(aboriginals), 16% in Europeans, and the case study of Basques, with a third of the population having negative RH blood; if considering the presence of one RH- allele (that is, people with RH+ blood but still with RH- genes), then Basques have 60%, other Europeans 40%, africans 3% and asians 1% (not considering mixed populations, like “african-americans”).
Surely, blood might explain A LOT of our past as a species, but it’s a way too complicated analysis: for example, the Rh blood group system consists of 50 different antigens, each with its characteristical genetic expression – and that’s only one of the thirty different (and known at the time) blood group systems.
Also, somewhat related to what you said, an interesting article, linking the end of the hunter-gatherer lifestyle in Scandinavia (the last bastion in Europe!) with migration from the south: http://sciencenordic.com/how-agriculture-came-scandinavia
Best regards!
Thanks.
Well, I’m a German with B+ bloodtype and I can tell you, that a healthy diet of wild flesh is much better for my body than McDonald’s and that goes for nearly every person, I guess (and you said so, too). The point is, that there are many blond and blueeyed people in my surroundings who deal much better with that kind of junkfood.
I think, you got carried away with this, since this trash has nothing to do with diet of any kind.
Just a minor correction. Ketosis is when the body uses fat as an energy source instead of carbohydrates (i.e. grains, i.e. agriculture).
Varg,
I’d be interested in reading your views on Japan (not as in contemporary Japan but focusing on a historical view), as the feodal Japan is quite often mentioned by European nationalists as a non-European culture that can (and should) be respected, or something along those lines. I’d prefer something more in depth than just stating something like the European culture suffices for us Europeans, as I imagine something fruitful might be drawn from the difference of two things that are usually seen as actual civilized cultures that have developed apart from each other. Of course it’s up to you if you see this issue as relevant. I myself haven’t yet been able to form any strict opinions on this and this it would be interesting to read some carefully formed opinions.
Also as I’m commenting the blog for the first time I must say it’s great to read this blog and especially see the comment section, which is the part that makes the whole thing actually living, being active. Obviously a blog is far from actual real life activity and twenty people is not to same as twenty million, but it’s showing there are people interested in their heritage and such, which I’m glad of.
If I may comment, well said Myrsky, I am very glad too, it was a great idea of Varg’s and has turned out very well. I have always had an interest in Japan, not so much now but it does have a fascinating and admirable culture.
I personally, speaking from experience of having drifted between phases of interest in either Europe or Japan, that temporarily exploring the exotic and reading up on other cultures, especially cultural practices active today, makes me feel more in touch with my own culture, so to speak…I guess when I see amazing things in another culture I soon realize those same things are already there on my own doorstep…
So read into it if you have the interest, check out Kodansha publishers, they have printed works by Samurai, such as Hagakure and Musashi’s Book of Five Rings…these are crucial readings for anyone interested in the real Japan I think…Yukio Mishima was a brilliant author as well. I also personally highly recommend Akira Kurosawa and Takeshi Kitano as extremely talented, original and distinctly Japanese film directors.
Of course you may and I’m really happy you share your insight, though I don’t have much to offer in return. I’ll make sure to go through everything you mentioned but what I’m not familiar with yet. Also please see “The Sword of Doom”, if only for the scene with the samurai fighting in the silent snowfall, if you haven’t already – I realize this is getting a bit outside the focus of this blog and might need its own discussion, but anyway.
Thanks, I bookmarked it…I need to see more jidaigeki films, Gate of Hell is supposed to be very good too…I highly recommend Yoji Yamada’s films too, especially Tiwlight Samurai, a beautiful, moving and very well acted film, one of the best Japanese films I have ever seen…such a good idea to focus on the drama and (realistic depiction of) everyday samurai life and less on the action scenes, which are sparse.
If you are into video games and mythology by the way, I cannot recommend Okami highly enough…in the visual style of ukiyo-e and sumiyo-e art, about Japanese mythology, one of the best games ever made…
Japan is a society rich in disciplined and technologically-advanced pedophiles, as far as I can tell.
er…where did that come from? There are many aspects of their excessively polite and anti-individual culture that I dislike, but they aren’t paedophiles, apart from Buddhist monks, and even the Samurai were apparently, in a similar way to what the Ancient Greeks are claim to have been, except there seems to be some actual evidence of this practice among samurai, i.e. rather graphic woodblock prints of them “in the act” with young men, even in front of their wives…
Maybe it was the Christian missionary influence…
Well Japan is the only country in the world where it is completely okay to produce and watch child pornography and for me that practise sounds like pedophilia…
And their prostitutes dress up like and act like little school girls to “turn the men on”.
There is to a lesser degree this grotesque idea over here as well…seeing as, as stated, modern Japan is basically a clone culture, they tend to either take things to a greater extreme or perfect them, in such a case the former…They are as much moral victims of Jewish perversity as a lot of westerners are…
Exactly.
But we know who to blame that on…Did they have or want child pornography before the Jews took them over after the war? I don’t think so…They do have a particularly perverse porn culture over there it seems, though surely it isn’t any more despicable than any hardcore porn polluting the west?…
And in case you didn’t notice the west is rife with paedophilia and child porn as well, what difference does the legal situation make? The Jews over here let it happen regardless, and are to blame for it happening in the first place, as with any sexual perversion…
It is mostly the Jews themselves who are also directly responsible for that here in the West. They *are *the paedophiles… Follow Destroy Zionism and you will see what I mean.
I have seen that as well….what a sick and utterly depraved “culture” they have…It’s easy to assume that the Greeks “invented” sexual perversions as that’s where all the words come from, but it’s obvious the Jews started all kinds…maybe while they were in Greece (as I doubt they behaved any different then from how they do now)
And men who excell at torture and sadism in war.
Varg, is the so-called “Financial World Crisis” been created by Jews to spread terror? What do you think about the American continent, whose history, demographic and political, was conducted by Europeans (Jews)?
No, it’s real because Jews control the economy and screwed it up (due to their general incompetence, or deliberately, it doesn’t matter…)…But of course, this only needs affect people who feel they need money…earn enough to buy land and afford materials to build a house and you’re sorted…
I have a little question: does one have to pay some monthly or annual tribute for owning lands in Europe? Because here where I live you can’t own a land and only cultivate it for yourself, because you would have to at least sell something of your production for getting money to pay tributes over land… so you get inside the circle of capitalist buy and sell, and need certificates from the government (that the products are “healthy”, that is, full of poison, etc.).
It must vary from place to place, a fellow Englishman commented on here a while back I think saying that you have to pay a huge tax to allow your offspring to inherit your land, and you in theory need planning permission to build on it, but people have got away with not being noticed soon enough (see comments, probably on the post about Varg’s house, about someone even managing to hide their self-built house behind a stack of hay-bales…bravo!)
Thank you; I will search in “Revolt” then, and I am sorry to hear that. It looks like “agrarian reformation”, so to speak, has arrived to the Fatherland also. I had hoped only South America was in such tyranny…
It’s probably not quite as bad as I made it sound, it’s just a hassle to get anything done as they hate you being independent still of course, and I doubt England is the only country on the EU bogged down in tedious, time wasting bureaucracy…You do officially need planning permission, which can take 3-4 years I think, but I think if they fail to notice you’ve been building one for 4 years at least they can’t do anything about it…The comments I mentioned explained it better though probably
Well, that’s a risk, to try to go unnoticed for 4 years, but maybe necessary. Actually my “revolt” goal is still in South America –maybe bureaucracy is after all lighter here-, but I wanted to have some idea about how things were on the other shore. Thanks again.
I wish you the best of luck with returning to your homeland. The sooner the better!
Thank you very much my English friend; you also have my best wishes for your personal revolt!
Cheers, here’s hoping I can get involved properly when the time is right…It’s only a matter of time before everything comes crashing down so expect the chance will come in my lifetime at some point
Surely it will
I always remember with courage how my gaul ancestors fought against the enemy that in that time was Rome. We don’t know the magnitude of their killings and how many good, healthy and proud Europeans died, history is of course tampered. I give credit to Rome for killing christians tho, but we should not forgive and forget all the killings made by them especially in Gaul(and germania). Hail Vercingetorix and all the Europeans heroes!
It is interesting to note that the primordial men form Hyperborea (i.e., those in which the Aesir, the spirit, dominated the Ettin, the energy or matter, and were thus Immortal), according to Judeo-Christian myth (that uses the symbol of Adam for the whole race of primordial men), only had to “work the land” after being cursed by Yahweh (in the same way that Iranians believed that they had lived in Hyperborea before Ahriman drove them out by freezing it), and thus became a mortal man.
So the need to cultivate, more than a simple historical fact, could be interpreted as a metaphysical sorrow of the Aryans who, being much closer to the lost primordial state than other races, had to adapt to their new needs when they arrived to Europe.
And remember that in Rome Saturn (= Chronos = Yahweh) was the God of agriculture…
Great article. We now see populations being POISONED through agriculture and governments controlling all the sources.
That is why I hunt and eat beans and nuts.
Here’s a dramatization of the Triumph of Julius Cæsar and the execution of Vercingetorix. I feel so torn when watching videos like that… as though my “National Socialist Self” and my “Norseman Self” are rebelling against each other.
Why what’s the discord in this?
Regarding Dacia, just as it still is today in Romania the land was very, very rich in natural resources. It was pretty much an ancient California when it came to gold, silver etc. So the Romans simply wanted these riches so they could fuel their huge empire and the battles of conquering Dacia were many and bloody but indeed they won in the end and Trajan came at the height of his might and the Roman Empire as a whole. In the end it all boils down to greed and the thrist for power, more and more power.
I suspect all these so called “Great” rulers have serious inferiority complexes and to compensate for their inferiority they want to conquer and rule over others.its exactly the same thing why small dicked persons today buy big cars.
That argument is really quite weak I think, on par with saying “if you don’t like homosexuals, that means you’re a closet homosexual yourself”. It’s the kind of stereotypical argument you hear from liberals. “Hitler? Small penis.” Of course many frail little people purchase large cars to overcompensate, but that cannot exactly be compared to establishing yourself as the leader of a nation…
Both humans who want to rule or like to be ruled have a perverted nature of some sort
With that simplistic little statement, you spit on all the greatest heroes in European history. Not all leaders are as depraved as your view on human nature. Believe it or not, but it’s possible for men to be motivated by things other than selfish desire for power, such as a sense of justice or responsibility to one’s own people and nation. And confident men are comfortable with being governed, as long as the leader has proven himself and that he stands for healthy values. We aren’t all equal, and some are better suited to positions of leadership than others.
It typically starts like this: A group of people who share the same values (and who typically feel that their identity as a people is threatened) band together, and start promoting their cause. While doing so, a few of them distinguish themselves as leadership material by means of their personal qualities and accomplishments. Eventually the group reaches a consensus on who should be presented as their champion/candidate, he accepts responsibility, and from there on they continue working together to increase the reputation and prestige of the movement and thereby also of the leader. It never starts with a lone perverted person thinking to himself “Muahaha I want to rule others!” (unless perhaps it’s a Jew in a liberal democracy).
Hey, Erik. You *really* should read the new Mnnerbnde post.
Indeed, it was highly relevant, thanks for the heads-up.
This sounds like some Freudian nonsense…
And remember they wouldn’t have taken our gold if there wasn’t a treason from one of Decebal’s confident- Bicilis… Sad but true.
The consequence of optimizing the agriculture is a globalised agriculture.
Just yesterday I was shopping for groceries and I bought a small pack of chives/parsley. On the package it says: “Country of origin: Kenya”. WTF? Are we not able to grow some stupid parsely over here anymore? We import this stuff by areoplane and it is actually cheaper to do so than to grow it here?
The same is also true for electronic products. The last TV I had was a TV from Grundig (a strong German company even working on the V2 rockets in the war, but now defunct due to the cheaper asian products). I had this TV for over 10 years, it was a quality product.
We cannot win this war if we support asian countries by buying their cheap products and at the same time we forget how to build our own products. We can’t even grow some parsley anymore for fucks sake. We should grow our own stuff or at least support our local producers.
I’m not even sure why I write this anymore because everytime I bring this argument up in a discussion I only get weird looks from people.
Man insteed of talking about it,do it.Grow your own food.
And then more people will follow your example.Dont expect others to do what you can do for yourself !
Varg, you are reading/have read Caesar’s “De Bello Gallico” and “De Bello Civili”?
Only parts of it, and a long time ago. I want to though.
Two years ago I was reading the “De Bello Gallico” but I remember that I leave it because the long parts about battles, political tasks ecc. annoyed me. Yesterday I have seen both the books together in one for 7 euro…and the flame was rekindled!
Free online: http://www.perseus.tufts.edu/hopper/text?doc=Caes.+Gal.+toc — unless of course you are looking for non-English.
I think people are waking up to this…Europeans at least are sick of mass immigration, urban air and noise pollution, I think gradually we will all want to leave and live in the countryside (I know I am determined to as soon as I can afford it). The city does indeed drive us mad, and to suicide – rural suicide rates? Surely there aren’t any…
I have faith – we can live as hunter gatherers…we can leave the mongrel and negro rapists and murderers to fight among themselves in the cities…we should leave them to rot and fall into ruin just as the Saxons did with Roman villas when the Romans left Britain en masse…
Sure, but the Saxons were no negroid criminals nor were they inspired by the lies of malicious kikes. They simply drove away imperial conflict, which has its benefits and its deficits just like the empire or the forming of Londinium themselves.
They’ve been in ruin since day one. They breed too fast to die off.
You are correct. They will either starve to death, burn each other’s houses down, or be shot by police…or maybe just shot by police
The United States is much like Ancient Rome. USA has legions spread across the world, USA goes to war to rape the foreign lands of their riches, USA intimidates its brother factions of the UK and France to appease a backwards agenda of imperialism, the interior two faced propaganda tells American citizens of their freedom and then malicious Zionist magistrates attack your birth and earned rights, and immigration is destroying America on the inside as well as every other country replicating what America is doing.
I guess history really does repeat itself. And if it continues to repeat itself this way, then America is soon to drop the republic for a full blown empire, as well as annex Canada and Mexico for their industry and land.
Also, the Native Americans were similar to the Gauls, comparing them lightly. These people both suffered at the hands of foreign invaders who had a desire to change their druidic culture and turn them into little Americans/Romans.
i see your point, but you should refrain from comparing celtic culture with stone age mongoliods, the only real loss was the hispanic conquest of the more developed cultures of the aztecs, but their civilizations only prove vargs thesis, the aztecs erected a massive hierarchy over corn cultivation including slavery,etc.
They weren’t mongoloids…In what way were the aztecs “more developed”? They artificially bound and shaped children’s skulls as they grew up I believe, like the incas, and sacrificed people in the millions…the culture of most northern natives was very similar to our own survivalist, spiritual, hunter gatherer culture…Such a shame…And they’ll never get it back now…
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mound_builder_%28people%29 centralization of ice age “asiatics” if you prefer, occured far north as well, the mayans scattered to the woods after their culture fell, as for the aztecs and mayas, their refined usage of obsidian (which was no match of course of toledo steel of visigothic heritage) and their warrior societies were much more organized and well trained, also their city was quite a marvel, both environmentally sound and strategically sound tenotitlan or whatever its called, was probably quite a sight, though i don’t of course lament the glory of the spainish warriors who burned it down i lament their catholic mesegenation of both white spainish culture and asiatic tool age culture
That’s interesting, so many parallels, I may have come across native American mounds a while ago actually when looking up European ones…And sorry for misunderstanding, thought you were actually comparing them to retards or people with Down’s syndrome (as that’s what mongoloid generally means over here)
Ha ha ha ha…
yeah i think it may have fallen out of use for PC reasons, but anyhoo have a good day brother!
We also refer mongoloids in the area I am from as retards and so on.. Although this did come from my Father whos mother and father came from Germany and England…
(Of course I am aware they were monoloids in the literal sense as they were/are mongolian just like Chinese, south east asians etc. …and I guess they were practically in the stone age but that’s nothing to be ashamed of)
also to note, as a white american it is disconcerting when euros make the connection between themselves and the formerly natives of my homeland over of course their departed cousins
I identify with them and sympathize with them and their problems a lot more, as they went through what we are starting to go through now, sorry…They had a wonderful culture and attitude and in no way deserved to be the victims of Judeo-Christian imperialism, greed and hatred, difference is we have managed to pull through just about, despite everything, whereas what little is left of them and their culture is doomed, basically…We should do what we can to save them, but their long term survival does not seem very realistic…
yeah it is pretty sorry what has happened to them, i happen to actually live very near to a reservation. they are against white people and tend to be devout christians and sadly their traditions have become similarly to us, illusions and playthings. there are of courseserious natives who take their history seriously, in all honesty i think they really have absolutly no chance at reclaiming their traditions as most are joining the modernist-leftist coalition of victimhood, this ties them into the global system, and you get indian whiggers, many if not most of them are horrible drug users, drinkers etc.
Oh yeah, they’re horrendous alcoholics and drug users, everyone knows that…the ones that aren’t just work at Casinos I gather…same with Australian aborigines…we built up an immunity, to some extent, to alcohol
But once they were introduced to it I don’t know if they ever really stood a chance, what with that, often deliberately spread disease, Europeans inciting inter-tribal warfare and the good nature and honour of the natives making them susceptible to the empty promises and treaties of the backstabbing, lying imperialists…
well you euros were always more healthy with the booze, we are the nation of crackin’ a cold one at 8:00 am before work, booze killed people in my family and ruined others lives, i have a drinking problem as well, but yeah it sure is something else, the booze, always makes things seem so easy LOL. yeah mining magnates tend not to understand virtues beyond obtaining wealth, the american “republic” never really had a chance to gain its nobility, any chance of it was quashed after daniel shayes and the disbandment of the continental army, which could’ve become the new warlords of the next europe, instead we got merchants.
although i tend to think that the only capitalist type worth remembering was Rhodes, but that is my opinion (and he was no yankee backstabbing son-of-a-bitch like rockafeller et all)
sorry to hear about your kinsmen, and easy on the booze! Yeah for sure, even over here with our “binge drinking” problems we practically never drink before midday
Have you read Mein Kampf?
Oh dear, and the plot thickens….white supremacist redneck yank now turns out to be a nazi as well recommending I read Mein Kampf…I did try to read it once but it’s nothing but tedious self indulgence and him going on about how amazing both he and his father were even though he was a failure at school and his father was a drunk…I bet there are pictures of you online dressed in a KKK uniform
Sorry but these are the laws of human nature. Only thing that will set us back now is pressing the “reset” button.
Powerful men are driven by greed. Usually. Never will we unlearn this collectively. Revolution and change through violence will always be here.
Save them? They are shit. At least Chinese and other Asians work. Skraelings are only looking for handouts from the white man. They were primitive, so they lost. Cruel world yes. Would I change it if I could in regards to the skraelings? Probably. But its over now.
We were “primitives” once, in better times…and you claim to be anti-urban when you’re clearly just a white supremacist snob contradicting yourself
Primitive in that the more advanced people persevered. Whether that is “morally” right or not means nothing. I don’t sympathize. It is that it just is. Does it matter if we like it? When a tsunami kills 200,000 people does it care if we think its “right”? Times were changing. And the weaker people lost. Was it a “good” strong that they were defeated by? Does it matter? They are DEAD! Forever!
We must not let this happen to us. We can not rely on a Yahweh type god to “choose” us because we are “right”. We have to be strong. There is no “justice league”. Only nature. I wear a tiewaz rune on my neck. And I prepare to defend myself against ANY foe. Because in the game of survival … “right” is irrelevant.
P.s. everyone thinks that they are right.
Your nihilistic bigoted worldview is identical to that of a Jew…only a complete moron compares natural disasters to genocide…you’re basically arguing there is no such thing as right and wrong…
P.S. Americans especially think they are right, even when their arguments make no sense whatsoever…maybe that’s why evangelical Christianity works so well over there….
No, I didn’t say that there’s “no such thing”. I said “does it matter”? Now that we are dying and there will be none left to remember us positively does it matter if we were right if the surviving world has NOTHING to say but “good riddance”? You’re missing the point entirely. You’re whining about a dead race who were outsmarted. Which is what is happening to us now. You must have read stories of amazing survival instincts in people. People who cut their arms off with a pocket knife in order to survive. If we’re not going to be able to die nobly being “right” because no one left will care, where does that leave us?
I PROMISE that the new history books will feature chapters on “The Great White European Race”.
Damn it! The books WILL NOT feature …
I’m a bigot but you have said nigger or negro multiple times. Niggers are primitive too. Does that make them “good” or OBSOLETE?
“White supremacist snob”?
What?!
I AM anti urban. Now that I have said that have the skraelings returned to the living?
I will also point out that as you used the word “skraeling” our honourable viking forefathers saw no reason to wage war on or exterminate the native populace…because they were “primitive” too…
No, they did wage war. And got run out by a larger group on their home terrain.
A larger group (skraelings) who were on their own terrain. Sorry.
As long as you are a healthy European, you shouldn’t be called a “dump American” or whatsoever. The blood’s important – not the region you live in.
Greetings from a German Nationalsocialist!
small scale skirmishes between natives and strange unknown foreigners which were bound to happen…The vikings could have raided and slaughtered them if they’d wanted to…but that is not how pagans behave
Very funny hippie.
I’d expect a right wing gun-toting American to call anyone who disagrees with him a “hippie”, “communist”, or “red”…less inbred/mongrelized people who are actually European and behave like Europeans instead of Jewish amoral thugs use logic in discussions and debates, instead of just throwing around derogatory words like schoolkids
Both of you (Jrwaldther and Hrodberht). I am not going to quote Micheal Jackson here and say “Why can’t we all just be friends”, but remember that you are on the same side. What you argue about is less based on actual disagreement than it is on both of you being annoyed at the other because he failed to show respect and be as polite as you both would want the other to be.
You had your fight, both threw a few punches, both had their feelings hurt a bit, okay, but now its over. Agree? You both win by “shaking hands” and being good buddies again. Cool?
Sure thing Varg, sorry to get carried away on your blog…I won’t go any further, but I am quick to argue with any American (especially one who does come across as little more than the average neo-nazi US nationalist).
That’s okay, my friend. I too get carried away some times.
Riiiiight. You are the one who can’t handle people disagreeing with you. Have you ever met a skraeling? Have you been to the states? Do I tell you how your nigger dump England operates?
Skraelings are a dead race. Only remembered by whites who can’t love themselves. Everyone else only remembers them by using their “destruction” against us “morally”. My point is … do you want to be forgotten and DEAD FOREVER? Or do you want to FUCKING LIVE? Pity and remorse and finger pointing means you will die.
You like to use American liberal catch phrases. Like “redneck”, “Nazi” and “KKK”. You are no more than a self loathing hippie.
Do not address me again. Varg said “stop it” and you had to take one more “Jew shot” (as you might say). You said your last words … and these are mine. You are a very small and weak man.
Wotan; id est furor.
I too was carried away earlier, and I am sorry about that, my friend. It serves no purpose speaking to each other in what is at least understood by the other as a disrespectful manner, even if we think we are right and the other part wrong. We are all in deep shit, so to speak, so I think we should rather focus on helping each other up from this shit.
You are right. And you were right earlier too. You have to understand my debacle though. You have said today even … “blood is thicker than water”. And as you know the “folk” starts in ourown homes. And then outward. My family is hard working and honorable. And if they weren’t I would not lie and say they were. I will kill for my families honor. And that starts just right outside my door.
You are right. American patriotism is stupid. But its where I live and its where my kin died. You have to understand that.
I respect and honor you greatly. And the work you have been doing here has been helping me along every single day. Along with my Havamal and voluspa readings, I feel very motivated and focused.
Men argue and debate. But as you know, family is sacred ground.
Hail to you and yours … through struggle comes strength and wisdom …
Hail Woden
XD good one! But that was that ghetto nigger Rodney King who said that.
Really? I always pictured that puny Jackson type with his girly voice saying that cheezy line. I got the race right though…
Lol, that you did! Michael “the molester” Jackson said (in his girl voice) … “it doesn’t matter if you’re black or white … HEEEEE HOOOOOO!”.
Lol!
Oh no! Now you made me say that loud with his voice, just to try out how it would sound…
Hahaha…priceless…I actually have nothing against Michael Jackson, I even admittedly still enjoy a couple of his albums (down to general 70s/80s electronic music nostalgia probably), and he wasn’t really a child molester (it was just a case of rich Jews making false claims and asking for money)…He was a weird one though, and I guess it’s no surprise that mongrels end up with defects and skin de-pigmentation conditions…
Speaking of child molesters, I had thought that Roman Polanski could be partially excused for his infamous incident because of what the Manson family did to his wife and unborn child, but then I remembered he is a Jew…So I guess that explains a lot…
Michael Jackson wasn’t a paedophile? Um, he did have pics of shirtless boys. And that is a fact. You talk all this anti American shit, and then listen to Michael Jackson and watch American TV shows?
OK, suit yourself …. ??????
I said it’s a (very rare in his case) guilty pleasure, and I never said Americans are incapable of producing good entertainment and art, I was just expressing my annoyance of them falsely taking credit for others’ inventions, like the enigma code breaker and the telephone…
I like the “mood” and “atmosphere” of 80s electronic music, especially in soundtracks, to elaborate further, and this mood is present even on some of Jackson’s stuff…I am under the impression that he, like Lewis Caroll, just had some weird and dare I venture innocent fixation on children, or rather, on childhood itself…which he never really had and was always striving to obtain, hence his weird “Neverland”…
The “black guy/white lady” was a looney tune. He had homosexual sleep overs with only BOYS. It isn’t about “kids” …. its about victims more vulnerable than he was when.his dad raped his ass.
Yes 80s electronica is great. But Michael faggson? No!
How about Skinny Puppy, Swans or Kraftwerk?
Fair enough, I wouldn’t rule it out but most of the claims were obviously bullshit by people just after his money…But like I said, I practically never listen to him, despite admittedly enjoying many of the songs on Thriller and Bad…and got to hand it to him, he could dance well and did write his own stuff mostly, which is a lot more than any of today’s pop stars do…
Kraftwerk are brilliant, especially on Trans Europe Express…rather before that time though, then you have to include other marvelous “krautrock” bands, such as one of my favourite bands period – Tangerine Dream, as well as the likes of Popol Vuh…As for skinny Puppy, they’re hit and miss…I love Too Dark Park, and what I have heard from Bites and the album after are good too…when they went all “noise” I lost interest though, and now they’re just boring…they’ve lost all that dark atmosphere that had before
I do like Swans a lot, it’s as nihilistic and gloomy as you can possibly get sometimes, like Godflesh who basically are Swans on their early material, and both of those are just reflecting the world around them (funny how much gloomy heavy music has come from Birmingham, Godflesh and Black Sabbath at least). I like Swans went they went more folky and Joy Division as well – White Light from the Mouth of Infinity is a great album.
Joy Division is great. One of my favs. Burzum reminds me of Joy Division.
Early Swans crushes. Though I’m with you, as they evolved they got more accessible but not losing their special darkness. I’ve been told my guitar tone sounds like Godflesh … so I dug em up.And I really like them “tonally” and “aesthetically” I don’t like their nigger flair they show here and there. But bo do they crush!
Do you like “Blot: Sacrifice in Sweden” by Blood Axis?
Older Godflesh, crica EP – Selfless is best, though even Songs of Love and Hate, on which they showed some hip hop influences, they still sound good and brutal…(Angel Domain is one of my favourite tracks of theirs, from that album). I think they hit their peak when they developed a sound of their own, before they got too hip hoppy, so Streetcleaner and Pure are probably the best (+ the Slavestate and Cold World EPs)
I have not heard of blood axis but I bookmarked them. Also if you like swans/joy division and any European sounding music check out dead can dance – JUST DO IT – if you haven’t already…their early stuff sounds very post punk but even that sounds different…They were at their best from spleen and ideal – into the labyrinth, though even into the labyrinth is patchy…has some great tracks though…
Within the Realm of a Dying Sun is DCD’s magnum opus for sure…
:’D
You don’t know the Viking age well do you?
Er, yes I do, I know it better than you know any history period evidently…I’d be surprised to hear you’ve ever read a book in your life, and even then I wouldn’t believe you
Vikings fucked shit up, mostly churches … and I love them for it. Because if the fear they instilled, they gained ground and spread their influence … and seed. THANK YOU NORSEMEN!
As for Vikings, yes they did “fuck shit up”, but not enough unfortunately, and we should remember them for their glorious other achievements in trade and seafaring as well…
The discovery America just goes to show how, though in Europe they were motivated by the need for more land and gold occasionally, they were not greedy, they could have colonized America but they didn’t…honourable, curious explorers…Shame the European explorers later (and the possibly Jewish Columbus) did not approach them in the same way…Don’t overstate the significance of conflict with Skraelings, some was bound to happen…
If you are interested in the subject I recommend the indie (US) film Severed Ways by the way…there are a couple of stupid moments in it (the soundtrack is made up almost entirely by black metal band instrumentals, along with some popl vuh, but also some dimmu borgir metal tracks alas…). Skraelings feature in this, it’s about the conflict between them and two stranded Vikings in the wilderness, as well as the conflict between paganism and Christianity…the “native” shown is obviously just played by some mongrel mestizo spick, but overall a serious and decent film for a (completely) indie production…
I own Severed Ways. I like it somewhat.
The fact is, no one really knows why the left. Most bets are on they were overwhelmed regularly and were sick.of the strife. They managed to pull it off on much rougher terrain in Iceland so … Skraelings ran them off.
A skraeling stole an axe. And was killed. And that started the shit. Skraelings were sneaky attackers. Much like our Norse. But it was in skraeling land. “Home field advantage”.the most logical explanation.
Dimmu Borgir sucks. Should have been only ambient Burzum tracks. Illa Tidandi!
They do, thing is they were an OK band then, the instrumentals were great, but the metal tracks were out of place and just made it seem daft, especially when the Viking was headbanging to it (*facepalm*)…Burzum and Popol Vuh ambient tracks would have made it much better…though the acoustic Morbid Angel “desolate ways” track (from their otherwise shit album Blessed Are the Sick) fits it very well too…
I expect you are right then, like I said, they were just explorers after all, I expect they did not see it as worth the losses, and held nothing against the skraelings surely…The Vikings never took excessive measures…Perhaps they should have, they might have been able to uproot Christianity…
I didn’t know there was a Morbid Angel track.
Yeah I didn’t mind the head banging part as much as I hated the lingo in parts. Like … “we are toast” etc. But I really loved the scenery and the Vikings sister suicide scene with Burzum tracks creating the somber mood.
Also, where’d those crusty monks come from? They never showed that. Otherwise, I like the film.
Oh God…and “this fish is fucking killer”, stupid lines like that…also the imposed red “chapter” titles look really amateurish as well…and the scene of the guy taking a shit wasn’t really necessary either, though it annoyed me less than the stupid headbanging bit
Primitives? Have you seen Tokyo, apes don’t build cities like that (not that i would wanna live in city like that).
It’s been practically rebuilt by Americans like Japanese modern culture in general, but no one can deny the splendor and beauty of traditional Japanese and Chinese architecture (which does borrow quite a bit from Indian)
Exactly.
Notice I say, “Conparing them lightly”
The Native Americans were nothing like the Gauls in any way other than their fate.
ah yes no offense i hope! i bet gauls would have been much better with spencer rifles and tomahawks than mongoloids
Oh of course they would be. Europeans have always been the most physically and mentally dexterous people.
If you’re really 17 years old I must say I am very impressed by you. You know a lot for a 17-year-old. Keep up the good work!
Thank you Varg. I raised myself, so I’ve had to grow up faster than the rest. You see, my family is a little strange and I will mot go into it unless you care for me to.
Now I’m taking much care for my 11 year old brother for the same familial complications, and I’m glad you’ve considered me a different strand of hair on the head of the youth. I just try not to be a gray one.
History doesn’t repeat, it rhymes
But yes, USA is doomed to fail (probably this year, but definitely in the next few). The reasons are many, but the Achilles heal (though this analogy insults Achilles) is the currency. USA has world reserve currency status. This will be removed when China decides they have enough gold. Then the USA, UK and some other European nations will fail. I think Russia will fair the best out of Europe. Then the Jews will repeat this all over again UNLESS WE LEARN.
Although it was not very good, that different Europeans fought against each other and murdered each other in such masses, I like in some way the wars, which happened back than. So much, that I would like to have participated in one of these.
I got just fascinated, hearing about Hannibal passing the Alps(were the people from Carthage also Europeans?) and standing against Rome with his disadvantage in numbers. Also the Greek polis standing against a common enemy, forgetting their differences and joining the war together against Persia.
Sad, that today we just can fight with the help of technological weapons. I don´t feel like it is the same, as when our ancestors fought and I really feel like it would be pleasurable to die or to live as a war hero in such times.
Carthaginians were very similar to Jews; both Semitic cultures, practiced human sacrifices en masse, were usurers, only cared about profit, traded salves, Demiurge worshipers (Moloch-Yahweh), etc.
Oh, my Latin teacher always told me they were Europeans.
I am almost sure they were Semites, but maybe your teacher said that their mercenary troops were Europeans; they recruited many Gauls, Iberians, Celtiberians and also among your kin (I suppose you are Greek), particularly Spartans if I am not wrong. Maybe Mr. Vikernes can lend us a hand with this issue.
You are very right to be sure of that. They were Semites indeed, and most closely related to the Phoenicians of what is today Libanon.
Maybe the complete destruction of Carthage was not only “politically” motivated, but by racial awareness. Ancient Romans were not humans; they were something more, made of steel or stone or something like that, like the Spartans. I wouldn’t be surprised to know that they exterminated Carthage not only because of dominion over Spain, but because of the racial contamination they supposed. I think Rosenberg had something like that in mind.
That must have been, what my teacher told me and so I may confused it. Or maybe he just didn´t tell me the people of Carthage weren´t European.
And yes, I´m from greek origin, you guessed that well.
Your name or nickname made it an easy guess my Greek friend
Yes, Aesop made some of my favorite stories in my childhood.
My parents used to read them to me before going to bed, so its just a nickname I used here, as my real one, well I don´t like it.
I don’t like my name either; as you can see, it is the name of an apostle, but we Spanishmen don’t have some true living tradition from before Christianity: the Goths were heavily Christianized when they arrived to Spain, and I don’t want to use a Suabi name; it would be artificial. So it looks that Spain is a country “Christian since its origins”. You Greeks, on the contrary, have your own names besides the Judeo-Christian ones. If you so desire you can someday go to the name register and be reborn as a new Leonidas o even Aesop…
I can agree with that. My mother not being a direct inheritance from Europe chose to name me Jason Aaron Hensley. Now the first and the last are fine as Jason originates from the ancient hero from greek mythology. The last name is Anglo Saxon and means High Leigh, which means a high wooded area, very pagan oriented. Now my middle name is disgusting and despicable. Aaron is a very jew oriented name. I know my parents didnt know this when they named me, but its horrible to me. This I shall have changed to something more pagan.
Go ahead. I am proud of my surname; there are many Montero’s –it means “Ranger” or “Hunter”- around, but my uncle, so I have being told -I have not seen it-, still has the shield that the King of Asturias gave to my ancestor along with his surname for saving his life during a haunt; furthermore, my family is from that area of Northern Spain. But maybe someday I will find another name that is more “mine” and change it.
Well, form Galice, but it is very close to Asturias…
Yes, I already decided on this. But I will do it after my grandfather doesn´t live anymore, to not disappoint him, as it is the same name as he has.
I don´t know a lot about Spanish History, but I guess the Goths should have tradition before Christianity arrived. And I´m sure you always can find something alternative.
That is very kind and noble on your part my friend.
Yes, they of course had, but not much of it is known today, and I find modern “Goth reconstruction” projects form fellow Spanishmen ridiculous, as they end up coping Norse names and those things, so you get a “Harold Ramirez” or something like that.
Maybe some research about (true, not Norse copied) Goth names or something will be enough, but if I don’t succeed I will for sure search and find an alternative. But if I don’t I will not care much; I can live with it
Oh, Santiago Montero I did not mean to degrade you or anything of that nature. I just agreed with the part of you saying you dont like your name. If you can find honor in your name do so. For instance, I was going to change my last name from Hensley to its original origins. I chose not to do so, due to the fact that even though my direct older family have dishonored this name. I though, feel that I can and already have restored the honor to it. I just hate the fact that I have a disgusting jewish middle name. That was all, I never meant to insult.
My friend, I perfectly understood what you said and never though it to be an insult of any kind; I was only pointing that I feel uncomfortable about my name, that is something that one can change, but not about my surname, that is more linked to my own blood. It is pretty the same with you and your name, that you dislike, and your surname, that you appreciate and is linked to your blood, and believe me, no one can take the honor away from your blood
You know what is so romantic in the artistic ideal, about this? I love Vargs music and his articles, and his wifes as well. But I truly think the greatest thing he ever did was this! We are finally able to talk about our flaws that have happened because of our parent generation. How we can fix them. We can finally discuss, one pagan to another, what we believe and learn from that. Music, and ideas do not do that on their own. It takes the people to make it into a reality. We are a reality! All of us! We are putting aside these disgusting judaic ideals and supporting our ancestors. This is how we know for sure we are the generation that WILL make a difference. Im proud on behalf of Varg, Marie, You, and all of us that can finally discuss these things without persecution. I knew Varg would be the one to make the difference…
You are absolutely right; only now are we starting to make Paganism alive by discussing our traditions and problems. This is for sure the beginning of the end of darkness.
This blog is really very good, better than the articles on burzum.org. But I feel, like we could need something like a forum, to have discussions lasting longer, than just inside of a post of Varg.
Also I think, that Paganism survived through Christianity, as an example my grandfather, although he serves the church, is acting like a true pagan and it feels always nice to visit him in his village, which is surrounded by nature, in Greece.
I read in one of these articles why he didnt want to. Now I think it could work if he personally moderates it. For instance the arguments that went on earlier in this discussion. He stopped the problem, They solved their problems, haha with reluctantcy of course as you can see. But it was solved we dont seem to have to many arguments against our beliefs, but rather our opinions on history. Which is of course bound to be a shaky ground as we are finally getting over that hump, and it is necessary for us to realize that us Europeans regardless of where we live are the same. I agree with Aesopos here. They do last so much more longer and the people with similar beliefs finally have a place to do this! We can finally become a tribe again. It will be a slow process of course, but we can restore it, as long as we truly dedicate ourselves to these ideals.
Forums are bound to be heavily infiltrated by provocateurs, crypto-Jews and other unwanted elements.
Uh, hold on … Spain still uses plenty of Roman and Germanic names older than Christianity in Rome, doesn’t it?
Yes and no. There are some Latin names (Rufo, Lucio, etc.), and also some Goth names (Fernando, Alfonso –“warrior elf”-, Rodrigo, etc.), but few of Iberian and Celtic origin. And Romans and Goths were not the most populous peoples to inhabit Spain, so I don’t feel like a Goth, and less Roman (even though I admire Romans a lot). It is my theory that Spain is, to a very high degree, a country without (surviving) pre-Christian tradition.
at some stage Spain would have been overrun by Romans, Celts and Goths anyway…Join the club – we are pretty much clueless about the pre-celtic culture or language of Britain…But I consider myself Germanic and more broadly European all the same. Do not feel your culture is lost. You are European like all of us, there is no shame in embracing any particular branch of one of your pagan conquerors…
Do not misunderstand me Hrodberht, I am fine with being a (Northern) Spanishman, but I really dislike the attitude of my fellow countrymen who try to “copy” Norse things and count how many drops of Gothic blood they have, not to speak of some Southerns who agree to hand Andalucía back to the Muslims.
I of course consider myself European, but will always see Spanish culture as related to Christianity since its birth in Visigothic Castile, and even though I do not feel like a Goth, I anyway probably feel more like a Goth than any other thing, and maybe that’s why I see in a very pure Wotanism the only hope for Europe -Spain included- because I am sure that the Goths (and others Europeans as well) adopted Christianity because of the similarity between the myth of Jesus and that of Wotan. When the spiritual issue is resolved, everything else will also fix by itself; my name can easily wait for its turn
I caught you discussing your name before…You speak a Latin language, to me it makes sense to take after your Mediterranean fellows in Italy and Rome…their pagan culture is in many ways more intact anyway, in terms of original pre-Christian sources…
As for my name, it’s just another Biblical name, from perhaps the most common – John/Johann, which literally means “Yahweh is Great”…I may as well be called “Allah Wakhba”…One day I may just drop my first name and stick with Robert (hence my Old German username)…Point is though, at the end of the day, our family name matters the most, so long as we do not continue to name our children after Jews…As long as we have European clan names to be proud of, and aren’t related to any Levys or Goldblums…
I had been interested especially in Norse culture for a long time…but I have always loved Greece Rome and Egypt as well, and since joining in on this my eyes have been broadened more…Now sources and subcultures from all over the place – Sumerian culture, the Scythians – are just as important to me…
I used to think it strange when neopagans merge Egyptian religion with European paganism…but of course it’s strange and stupid for many other reasons – that religion is ours too…and the sources even more ancient than ours (I promptly bought an illustrated Book of the Dead since realizing this)
Replying to myself for lack of an alternative …
Santiago:
A) speaking from knowledge of Portuguese here, but it seems to me that we still know more pre-Christian Roman and Germanic (Possibly not just Gothic?) names than Christian ones – presumably because the Bible is just a single book.
B) While I share your impression that Spain isn’t very Roman genetically, I think Rome’s pre-Christian traditions became widespread and still exist. No?
C) If you (and possibly even hrodberht, according to certain theories) want to connect to your pre-Roman or even pre-Celtic genetic ancestors, shouldn’t you start learning Basque? (Disregard if you’re a Basque using “Santiago” for whatever reason.)
D) Who wants to hand over Andalusía, and why? Picking a Caliphate might’ve made sense with how Europe was back then, but now …
E) “Wotanism” certainly sounds “too specific” for a number of Europeans – Varg doesn’t use “Paganism” for no reason, despite recent blackwashing of the term …
Thanks for commenting
Yes, maybe there are some Suabi names in Northern Portugal and Galice, but the Suabi were a very small minority, I believe. I have always searched for some evidence about how many they were, but never found anything interesting about it… if you have some information about it I would be interested on in.
Yes, I am sure that Roman pre-Christian traditions became widespread, and also pre-Roman ones, but those are not “warrior traditions”, but “peasant traditions”. Of course I am not saying that those traditions are inferior or anything like that, because they have a legitimate place in the whole corpus of traditions, but they are not the most important ones, at least a far as I can see.
No, I am not a Basque, but I don’t think Basques are the “original” Spanish population… maybe they were, but became displaced with the arrival of other peoples.
People form Marrakech are asking that Andalucía be given back to them, and Muslims living in Spain support this and are being tolerated by Spanishmen without crying tot loud. It makes me recalling the fate of King Rodrigo at the hands of traitors from within Spain. Catalans are promoting the immigration of Muslims because they believe that they will help them to separate from Spain. It looks they prefer to be part of Marrakech that from the Kingdom of Spain.
About Wotanism, yes, I see your point, but the only specific part of it is its name; the idea of the Aryan man who sacrifices himself for achieving spiritual enlightenment is actually pan-European. I believe that the name “Wotan”, as “Odal”, could be accepted by all Europeans. After all, Germans and Scandinavians are the purest brothers and sisters we have, so by using their (religious) terminology we are using our own names. It is fine for me, as long as not excessive reference is made to purely geographical or present-day culture of Scandinavia. And the problem with Paganism is that the term has had a negative connotation since the beginning of its use by Christian apologetics; so I believe that Wotanism could be a fairly good alternative (with its equivalents of course: Hermetism, Mithraism, and the like).
No information: I can’t tell names from different Germanic tribes apart.
I know that Spanish acquired a lot of military terminology from Germanic languages, but I find it hard to believe Roman tradition was wholly supplanted …
Well, as far as I can tell, the Basque got to Iberia first – and later got encroached upon culturally, but likely left genes behind. And some theories say the original population of the British Isles was genetically related.
OK, no Spaniard actually wants to be part of Morocco – but even the Catalans tolerating such a demand is tragicomical.
I don’t think there’s any problem with a Germanic etymology (as in “Odalism”); naming it after a specific myth (“Wotan”) seems shakier. (And yes, I agree all the Sky Fathers were the same originally, but I guess there would be relevant distinctions nowadays if one looked and cared enough.)
The problem is that Basques were often displaced when others came; generally (but not always), mountain people do not live in the mountains because they want, but because they were expulsed from the shores and meadows by others, but I am not sure about the Basques.
About the Catalans –and I say this with the highest respect for them- I have been since a long time without a clue about how their logic works… no to speak of their priorities.
Well, maybe, if Europe is restored to normality someday, we will have our highest deity as Wotan-Hermes-Lug, or something that encompasses all the different myths while retaining their differences; I think the Romans did this with the Gauls and others.
I thought people similar to the Basque were (and are) the genetic forebears of the Iberians – most adopted Indo-European culture, while the ones driven away kept Basque culture. And there’s a theory that Great Britain and Ireland were peopled by the same stock. Thanks for your answers, too.
They even chose their rulers by how wealthy they were!
Funny that they don’t talk this on the history class, it’s always the white devil enslaving others ps: the artwork is beautiful.
I always used to say that problems appeared when people started forming societies . The European nature is very individualistic and selfsufficient .When that was taken from him, he got perverted into the sick creature with the herd mentality that we see today
I am of the Same opinion,but i think the herd mentality you are talking of is just the negative picture thats shown in the “hyper Individualist” media.
I think we always have been organized in tribes,but on a far more equal level!today individualism is presented as a Way of “Breaking the rules” and give a shit about Others. We are Running Out of Mitgefühl!
Yes the concept of individualism has been misinterpreted . For me its like taking my own path,without bowing down to rulers or laws (especially when I never approved them personally) and do what I want of course as long as my actions do not affect negatively humans who haven’t first messed up with me first
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